So this is how liberty dies — to thunderous applause

Originally posted by Lazerlike42
El Nino, due to your nations media you may not even know about this, but there was a pretty big story a few months back. Somewhere in Ontario I believe there was a serial killer who buried all his victims behind a barn or something to that effect.

In any case, the Canadian government, because they "did not want to incite a riot," WOULD NOT ALLOW ANY REPORTS on this to be in any newspapers or in televison news broadcasts, even though there was vital information on how to keep oneself safe from the killer. In fact, (and I could be wrong about this) I believe the government surpressed reporting after the killer was found because it gave them bad PR on the way they handled the case....

Same thing happens here....

Originally posted by mephistodesigns
You don't suppose people are against the war automatically BECAUE THEY THINK ITS WRONG TO KILL INNOCENTS FOR BULLS**T REASONS DO YOU? Do you think they just think mass amounts of DEAD humans on both sides is wrong? Oh no, it must be those little pussy democrats, always supporting not killing people for no reasons. Wow are they biased....

Sure some people could be against the war for such a reason. The point is that we can't say pro-war folks don't think for themselves when most of the media is telling them that what they think is wrong.

Originally posted by El_NINO
lol i dont know what "Canadians" you talk too but there so wrong, the health care system is used for regular check ups by a family doctor, they cover most opertations. HAHAH i laugh at americans for paying $80 everytime they go to a doctor

Seriously, no Amercian can possibly argue that we have better health care. Why do you think people go to Canada and Mexico for medical supplies? Because its to expensive because our country spends too much money INVADING countries and bombing anyone who looks at us funny rather than pay for health care and food for its own people for once.

El Nino, due to your nations media you may not even know about this, but there was a pretty big story a few months back. Somewhere in Ontario I believe there was a serial killer who buried all his victims behind a barn or something to that effect.

im sure that just doesnt happen here it happens everywhere, I would be angry if i found out my next door neighboor was a serial killer when we as citizens are supposed to be told who is dangerous when they leave prison.

Originally posted by Lazerlike42
Hardly! NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, PBS (lol), New York Times, LA Times, they are all HIGHLY anti-war. I don't have any stats but I'd guess that far more than 60% of Americans get their news from these sources.

spoken like a true victim of propoganda. way to repeat what they tell you too. that's the american way, monkey see monkey do. just jump on the band wagon and keep your mouth and eyes shut and everything will be okay.

Originally posted by El_NINO
lol i dont know what "Canadians" you talk too but there so wrong, the health care system is used for regular check ups by a family doctor, they cover most opertations. HAHAH i laugh at americans for paying $80 everytime they go to a doctor

I happen to pay $20 to go to the doctor, and I'd say most people with healthcare pay similar amounts. In any case, the first time I was ever in Canada we asked some folks what the biggest problem was in Canada out of curiosity, and their completely unsolicited response was the healthcare.

http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/canfreeandfirst.html

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and so what if Canada had a serial killer? you know how many we've had? There's one, this guy who killed his grand parents and was in a psych ward 'till he was 18, then he had to make regular visits to a case worker, the day the state psych dept. said he didn't have to come back anymore because he was A-OK, he had a woman's head in his trunk of his car which was parked right outside. I believe it was Ed Kemper, but I could be wrong on the name.

youd think theyd have enough bradlies to go around, maybe spending another 100 billion on milatary will help americas problems like homeless, drug dealers, pollution, and not to mention gas prices, why not spend money on a new source of fuel

I wish I had their healthcare problems...damn, I wish I had insurance. Hell...I wish I had a job and wasn't in social services, the lowest paid area of government!

Originally posted by mephistodesigns
Seriously, no Amercian can possibly argue that we have better health care. Why do you think people go to Canada and Mexico for medical supplies? Because its to expensive because our country spends too much money INVADING countries and bombing anyone who looks at us funny rather than pay for health care and food for its own people for once.

If you think that you are vastly underinformed or biased. The most hard-nosed liberal will tell you Canada's health care system is NOT the model we want to follow. The reason people get drugs and supplies from Canada is because there is little government regulation so things cost less; it has little to do with the healthcare system. It also, I might add, greatly increases the risk that something will be wrong with the drugs or supplies that are purchased.

Originally posted by mephistodesigns
and so what if Canada had a serial killer? you know how many we've had? There's one, this guy who killed his grand parents and was in a psych ward 'till he was 18, then he had to make regular visits to a case worker, the day the state psych dept. said he didn't have to come back anymore because he was A-OK, he had a woman's head in his trunk of his car which was parked right outside. I believe it was Ed Kemper, but I could be wrong on the name.

Yeah everyone has serial killers lol. The point is that Canada's government censored the media so that none of the citizens could be informed about it. Nobody even knew there was any danger! They were just walking around like nothing was wrong when they could have at LEAST been informed to keep a look out over their shoulders.

Something wrong with the drugs from Canada?

Now THAT is stupid to assume....

Canada is certainly better than our health care. Its not perfect...but ours sucks ass. I mean we're dealing with 500% markup on services/medication, etc. Damn insurance companies.

Originally posted by Lazerlike42
I happen to pay $20 to go to the doctor, and I'd say most people with healthcare pay similar amounts. In any case, the first time I was ever in Canada we asked some folks what the biggest problem was in Canada out of curiosity, and their completely unsolicited response was the healthcare.

http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/canfreeandfirst.html

lucky you, I pay at least fifty since I HAVE NO MED INSURANCE because I work retail because I've been downsized twice from two graphic art departments: one with the L.A. school district who cut me do to budget cuts (thanks Schwartzenagger) and once because the co. shipped out of state. In Canada, i'd still be able to at least get a check up and know if I'm gonna die next week. But yeah, there system really sucks. You're such a tool for the government its sad. Sad and freakin' scary.

Originally posted by tlbauerle
I wish I had their healthcare problems...damn, I wish I had insurance. Hell...I wish I had a job and wasn't in social services, the lowest paid area of government!

Whose healthcare problems.... the US, or Canada?

Originally posted by Lazerlike42
Yeah everyone has serial killers lol. The point is that Canada's government censored the media so that none of the citizens could be informed about it. Nobody even knew there was any danger! They were just walking around like nothing was wrong when they could have at LEAST been informed to keep a look out over their shoulders.

maybe because their media doesn't want a nation afraid to leave their houses like here. And its not like they lied about why they took over Iraq...oh wait, that was us.

Well here we have corporations decide the news based on what may and may not hurt profits....and what may and may not hurt their image, or who is in office that makes lenient corporate laws.

Originally posted by Lazerlike42
Whose healthcare problems.... the US, or Canada?

Canada's....

I was on unemployment....and the UNEMPLOYMENT DISQUALIFIED ME FOR STATE INSURANCE. WTF?

Yeah everyone has serial killers lol. The point is that Canada's government censored the media so that none of the citizens could be informed about it. Nobody even knew there was any danger! They were just walking around like nothing was wrong when they could have at LEAST been informed to keep a look out over their shoulders.

well first of all it was in Ontario, I was aware of this when it came out, it wasnt Canadas government that cencored it either, OPP (Ontario Provincial Police) handled it.

I'm down with OPP...Yeah...you know me