The Bible was not inspired by God as many think...The reason Matt, Mark, Luke and John were chosen was because of the significance of the No. 4.wind, earth, air, fire...north, south, east, west..etc..There were over 100 different texts not implemented. This was documented on another thread...but Jury, you didn't read it...Constantine blended the Mithra's pagan ideas with the church to unite the people for the churches control...This is common knowledge..There were the Gnostics that were also concidered Christians that used the other texts...The church didn't like them and tried to wipe their ideas out...There are more Gnostic texts then anyother...
True Christians ceased to exist since the death of the apostles may I remind you all. That was warned off by the apostles themselves. And I believed in that.
When the apostles declared that after them, the Church will be lead by the preachers who will introduce other beliefs (such as pagans) and some who will refuse will be killed and tormented by the wolves in sheep's clothing. Did this happen? History has proven it.
This was paralleled to what had happened to the God's first nation - the Israel... when God chose them to be His people... they inherit the land promised to them. But what did the Israelites did? They turned away from God and started to embrace paganism. Did God warned them? Many times. Did they return to Him? Many times. Did they remain steadfast? Never. That's why God sent numbers of prophets to reform the first nation but they were hard hearted and futile until the covenant stopped from them.
But by virtue of the prophecies of Old, God's second nation will exist after the 400 hundred silent years - the Christians.
As prophesied, these people will also turn away from God by embracing other beliefs... after the time the last apostle of Christ has died.
The Church was named the Roman (a pagan nation) Church. From Christ. they changed their Head to their pope. From Christ, they changed their Foundation to Peter. Others where invented and adapted from Paganism. Mass, cathedral, transubstantiation, infant baptism, lent, christmas, rosary, etc... this was the Great Apostasy the Bible has prophesied.
History repeats itself.
God sent again his messengers to reform the Church - the angel who shouts "Fallen is Babylon the Great!" But nothing happened. God has proclaimed the destiny of this "Babylon"... the eternal punishment. After 400 years again, God founded His third and last nation through His last messenger.
And after this, the end will come.
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Originally posted by debbiejo
The church would of been better off without buildings and used only the people themselves as the church...The true church is people not buildings.
The true Church, on the other hand, is Chirst's body. That's why it is needed for a Christian to be found inside Christ's body. But there are commandments Christ had declared on how to be a part of His body, and that is what each Christian should follow... for them to be saved. This commandments came from God and Christ... not from the Councils the Roman Church had formulated.
Originally posted by debbiejo
The Catholics have many paganism rituals, but unfortunately the protestants didn't shake theirs off either...
Originally posted by finti
the entire christ thingie is of pagan origin too, a son of god in human body sacrificed for the sake of humans
Yea....like Mithra...
In scriptures somewhere it says "Sun of Rightousness", I always wondered why it was spelled Sun instead of Son...Now it's clear. Sun worship is all through the scripture.
They gave importance to the elements, even in Job. This is more like what the nature religions do. The Essenes speak of the elements as angels..Wicca is also a nature religion and New Age to a degree.