Originally posted by Jury
😂 Finally, you admit.Thank you for being honest. Thank you for accepting the fact that Catholics faith was not based on the Bible.
So, whatever you tried to prove to me before via PM was considered "bluff".
Once again, thank you. 🙂
Thank you? What, are you forgetting that every other christian faith WAS based on Catholicism?
Originally posted by Jury
Based on Catholicism? 🙄 In what sense? Can you explain why?
Of course I can explain why. Don't roll your smug eyes at me. There was no deviation of christian beliefs BEFORE Martin Luther nailed his grivenences to the church door. After that, there was a split in the catholic church and every other christian denomination was free to found itself. Learn your own history, and then maybe there'll be some basis for you thinking you moderate the religion forum.
Originally posted by Jury
The Holy Scriptures
Where in the scriptures does it say that praying more than once is a waste of time? If that's the case, then why do people still pray? Aside from that, do you honestly believe the holy scriptures weren't written by flawed feeling human beings?
I don't pray the rosary, no. But, I grew up in a world where I learned to...
What denomination are you? I was raised catholic and spent my entire educational career in catholic school and church. What's your background?
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Of course I can explain why. Don't roll your smug eyes at me. There was no deviation of christian beliefs BEFORE Martin Luther nailed his grivenences to the church door. After that, there was a split in the catholic church and every other christian denomination was free to found itself. Learn your own history, and then maybe there'll be some basis for you thinking you moderate the religion forum.
And what Christian denomination are you talking about?
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Where in the scriptures does it say that praying more than once is a waste of time? If that's the case, then why do people still pray? Aside from that, do you honestly believe the holy scriptures weren't written by flawed feeling human beings?I don't pray the rosary, no. But, I grew up in a world where I learned to...
What denomination are you? I was raised catholic and spent my entire educational career in catholic school and church. What's your background?
Where in the scriptures does it say?
Since the Rosary originated from heathens or pagan practices, and contains repetitious prayer, the scriptures has to say:
“And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.
“Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him.”
Matthew. 6:7-8, NKJV
Repetitions like praying "hail Mary" 150 times.
Yes. The Bible was written by human beings - the people of God. But as a Christian, I faithfully believe that these people of God were "inspired" by God Himself when they write them.
And how do I know which Bible renders the right version?
I may refer to you ... the Holy Spirit.
I cannot interpret the Bible myself, the Bible interprets herself.
And God has sent His messengers to fulfill that.
I am a member of the Church which Christ has built. His Church. - The Church of Christ.
Maybe we all can learn something new......And BTW..The Sabbath wasn't done away with...Many churches still keep it.
Protestants calling the Catholics wrong..Isn't that like the Pot calling the kettle black??
Originally posted by Jury
That's what you call "based on Catholicism"... no2And what Christian denomination are you talking about?
Yes, that's what I call "based on the catholic religion". Disprove it. The only reason christianity survived passed ancient history is beause of the catholic church. It was the first and only world government.
Originally posted by Jury
Where in the scriptures does it say?Since the Rosary originated from heathens or pagan practices, and contains repetitious prayer, the scriptures has to say:
“And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.
“Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him.”
[b]Matthew. 6:7-8, NKJVRepetitions like praying "hail Mary" 150 times.
Yes. The Bible was written by human beings - the people of God. But as a Christian, I faithfully believe that these people of God were "inspired" by God Himself when they write them.
And how do I know which Bible renders the right version?
I may refer to you ... the Holy Spirit.
I cannot interpret the Bible myself, the Bible interprets herself.
And God has sent His messengers to fulfill that.I am a member of the Church which Christ has built. His Church. - The Church of Christ. [/B]
So, what's the point in praying? In fact, it seems to disprove religion. Why ask for something that this all knowing and powerful being already knows you need or want? And then you're told to pray. The hypocrisy of organized religion only reveals that god was created by man and not the other way round. Again, praying for what you "want" is like asking santa claus for the GI Joe Hammerhead.
If the bible was inspired by an unquestionable and devine being, then why are there so many flaws and contradictions? What? Your god couldn't see 2000 years into the future? Not a very reliable god. Besides, I think the operative word there is "vain". Just like the rest of your religions beliefs.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Yes, that's what I call "based on the catholic religion". Disprove it. The only reason christianity survived passed ancient history is beause of the catholic church. It was the first and only world government.
Catholicism was likened to the Great City of Babylon - the Woman who is the Mother of Prostitutes and of the Abominations of the Earth (latest denominations).
Catholicism is the Apostate Church, that's why she was likened to a woman who drinks a madenning wine of her adultery.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
So, what's the point in praying? In fact, it seems to disprove religion. Why ask for something that this all knowing and powerful being already knows you need or want? And then you're told to pray. The hypocrisy of organized religion only reveals that god was created by man and not the other way round. Again, praying for what you "want" is like asking santa claus for the GI Joe Hammerhead.If the bible was inspired by an unquestionable and devine being, then why are there so many flaws and contradictions? What? Your god couldn't see 2000 years into the future? Not a very reliable god. Besides, I think the operative word there is "vain". Just like the rest of your religions beliefs.
And...
Who said "my" God couldn't see 2000 years into the future? 🙄
Originally posted by Jury
😂 Finally, you admit.Thank you for being honest. Thank you for accepting the fact that Catholics faith was not based on the Bible.
So, whatever you tried to prove to me before via PM was considered "bluff".
Once again, thank you. 🙂
Nothig is a bluff for everything I said can be supported.
Veneration
"The Christian veneration of images is not contrary to the first commandment which proscribes idols. Indeed 'the honor rendered tto an image passes to its prototype,' and 'whoever venerates an image venerates the person in it.' The honor paid to sacred images is a 'respectful veneration,' not the adoration due to God alone:
Religious worship is not directed to images in themselves, considered as mere things, but under their distinctive aspect as images leading us on to God incarnate. This movement toward the image does not terminate in it as image, but tends toward that whose images it is.
But for those who don't know
Veneration(of saints)-Showing devotion and respect to Mary, the Apostles, and the martyrs, who were viewed as faithful witnesses to faith in Jesus Christ. Later, veneration was given to those who led a life of prayer and self-denial ingiving witness to Christ, whose virtues were recognized and publicaly proclaimed in their canonizaton as Saints.
I would post more but I have to go, free period in school is up...
Originally posted by Jury
Praying is the way one communicates to his Creator. I know that it doesn't make a sense to you. So what?
But, he knows everything already...doesn't he? Or what? Does he just enjoy the protocol? Why does he make you jump through hoops?
Originally posted by Jury
Who said "my" God couldn't see 2000 years into the future? 🙄
Your own hypocritical beliefs. In fact, it looks to me that a majority of your religions views places god in this category of unimaginable ability, and then treats him like your average long distance relationship. "If you need something, wirte him a letter and be sure to ask real nice like."