Count Nefaria vs. Mr. Majestic

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That was a flashback to their fight that Nefaria had (At least I think it was him.) during Busiek's run I believe. What actually happened however was this:

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http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsCountNefaria4.jpg

And this:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsCountNefaria13.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsCountNefaria14.jpg

Theres also some of this

And this

CN at his best, Majs swords arent doing shit to him.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Theres also some of this

And this

CN at his best, Majs swords arent doing shit to him.

What does a blunt-force object has to do with a sword that cut atoms?

Scans of Maj cutting someone in half that is on CNs level?

Originally posted by The Nuul
Theres also some of this

And this

CN at his best, Majs swords arent doing shit to him.

That first scan is the flashback I was talking about. As you can see, Thor's hammer definitely did not not do shit to Nefaria.

Nefaria is strong, strong enough to stop a hammer strike from Thor, however to argue Majestic isn't doing shit to him is untrue. He might have the physical edge and would win, but he'll know his been in a fight. As you saw, Thor is definitely in his league and could rock him with his attacks.

Three people have stopped a hammer strike. Professor Hulk did so to Red Norvell, Clark did it to Thor, and Nefaria did it to Thor. Thor did something similar to Masterson but he grabbed the handle instead of the head as I recall. Personally, I think people overrate the scenes. I doubt Thor hits harder with Mjolnir than he does with his fists under most writers.

To be honest, if you apply real world logic, Thor would have to be a lot weaker than anyone his ever gone toe to toe with when his had the hammer. Give me a hammer like that, and the difference in striking power between me wielding it and not wielding it would be large. Or Mjolnir must be the worst melee weapon out there.

Hammer in hand should definitely be stronger.

Especially with Thor essence pumping into it. GodStrike.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Scans of Maj cutting someone in half that is on CNs level?

Um, Majestic himself when Sebastian attacked him. They cut through everything except themselves and swords forged in the same way. They cut through Captain Atom's Dilustel skin too, something punches from a lot of heavy hitters couldn't do.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Hammer in hand should definitely be stronger.

Especially with Thor essence pumping into it. GodStrike.

Using real world logic. Most of the time it doesn't seem to be the case for Thor. Hammer or no hammer, his still the mighty Thor. Mjolnir is just a tool. As a recent story showed us, when young, Thor relied too much on Mjolnir's power and Odin forced him to relinquish it. Thor proved that his just as capable of kicking ass without his hammer as he can with it to all doubters. When offered Mjolnir, Thor told Odin to keep it for a while.

?

You mean charging his hammer shots/throws?

I mean Hammer in hand while striking should be more effective than throwing it....logically.

the hammer bounced off nefaria in a flashback and on a cover, but in his early appearance nefaria was actually scared sh!tless of thor.

this is a close battle. cn has some great durability. maj does too though. i'd give cn the edge there and maj the speed edge. be pretty close to a split, imo.

Personally, I think in terms of strength and durability, Nefaria has the edge (Except in Busiek's mind.) but like you said, Majestic has the speed edge, along with the versatility, and skill edge.

It kind of balances out. Majestic is pretty intelligent and has been known to use his head when he can't solve a problem by punching it (Ask the Eradicator.) but I think he'd tend to go blow for blow here. That would favor Nefaria.

If Majestic uses his superior skill etc. he might break even but you know how rare that shit is in most comic book fights.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I mean Hammer in hand while striking should be more effective than throwing it....logically.

It should be logically.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Aint going to happen. Thors hammer didnt do shit all to CN. Why would Majs swords do any better?

A hammer is a hammer. Majestic blades can cut through anything.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Aint going to happen. Thors hammer didnt do shit all to CN. Why would Majs swords do any better?

Its Wildstorm version of A Grade Adamantium. I would go as far as to say superior. Given the sheer exclusivity, and showing of the blade.

CN

Originally posted by The Nuul
Theres also some of this

And this

CN at his best, Majs swords arent doing shit to him.

Wow, the claims he's like Pre Crisis Superman in Marvel seem apt.

He looks ridiculously overpowered here.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
A hammer is a hammer. Majestic blades can cut through anything.

Has Thor even busted a planet/moon with his bare hands though?

I thoiught the hammer added to his natural striking power. Sort of a "Make Thor hit harder" spell.

Originally posted by cdtm
Wow, the claims he's like Pre Crisis Superman in Marvel seem apt.

He looks ridiculously overpowered here.

The first scan is a flashback and the second one I have no problem with. You obviously don't have to have much of a strength gap (If any.) to stop a hammer strike.

Originally posted by cdtm
Has Thor even busted a planet/moon with his bare hands though?

I thoiught the hammer added to his natural striking power. Sort of a "Make Thor hit harder" spell.

Nope. The closest that's come to happening is when it was stated he struck with a planet wrecking blow.

No such thing exists. However, in the past I would have said charging his hammer should most definitely increase his natural striking power, but at this point, Thor's hammer is always crackling with energy etc. and his always hitting things with Mjolnir that I don't think it's anything special anymore. The last time I recall Thor punching a person was in a Loki made illusion against the Hulk and even then, his fist had lightning crackling around it. Some writers/artists have it happening it all the time as an artistic effect, they probably think it looks cool, more so recently as I said. In the past it was used at times to indicate an increase in striking power. Most of those times it was made clear however that he channeling energy whether in dialogue or art form.

Nice scans