Why Prayers Aren't Answered.

Started by finti25 pages

As opposed to killing yourself making an idea more complicated than it already is.
and this is contributing to the debate how?

Originally posted by debbiejo
God is like an invisible fog that's everywhere and inbetween everywhere

A being who has no body and is not in any way constructed from matter or energy, incorporeal?

Originally posted by Storm
Just like there is no one who can make the claim that god does exist.

God does exist, thats for sure. We can see it in the creation and the Grand Design of all things. And most importantly Gods existence is confirmed in one's spirit.

God does exist, thats for sure
prove it then, and dont use this sorry excuse of a book called tha bible as proof. Cause the bible is as valuable source as a hooker with a bad conscience

And most importantly Gods existence is confirmed in one's spirit.
and hen there is la la land

Originally posted by Storm
A being who has no body and is not in any way constructed from matter or energy, incorporeal?

He/It has no body, but is full of conscious thought and energy. Some type of Entity that is apart of everything including ourselves and apart of the invisible....Quantum scientists have been discussing this theory and working with it.

How can immaterial mind affect or change matter in any way?

It comes down to what everything is made of. Scientists have found that the sub atomic particles act in an intelligent way, not random. They have been able to measure these particles in thoughts, which are invisible. They have found that solid objects are just a denser form of these particles, but that everything is made of them including the invisible space between everything. Everything is connected.There have been many experiments recorded in this new field. IT is apart of everything and everything is apart of IT. We and everything else are really ONE huge organism...

Thoughts, objects, ... are related to matter.

Yes, at a sub atomic level. All equals energy.

Originally posted by finti
prove it then, and dont use this sorry excuse of a book called tha bible as proof. Cause the bible is as valuable source as a hooker with a bad conscience

and hen there is la la land

You are being a absolute *******. I guess even you should be aloud to share your OPINION.

The burden of proof always lies with the person who is making a claim, not the person who is hearing the claim and who may not initially believe it. In practice, then, this means that the initial burden of proof lies with the theist, not with the atheist. Both the atheist and the theist probably agree on a great many things, but it is the theist who asserts the further belief in the existence of a god.
If a claimant cannot provide that support, then the default position of disbelief is justified.

Though finti could have expressed himself in less colourful terms.

Originally posted by sonnet
You are being a absolute *******. I guess even you should be aloud to share your OPINION.

Do not reduce yourself to such manner of discussion. It does not move finiti, and it further proves his point. You must always remain calm in conversations with finiti, for such manners of weakness are quickly exploited in his game...

Though finti could have expressed himself in less colourful terms.
now where is the fun in that 😎

I take pleasure/fun in other things swank 😛

Re: Why Prayers Aren't Answered.

Originally posted by debbiejo
And you never say things like. Please give me...You say instead...Thank you that I have...You state it as a fact and in the present that you already have it, and give thanks for it...

Interestingly, this principle is common to Wicca as well. When one casts a spell, he must state his petition and then affirm that it has been granted. If one was to state, "I want money," he would only increase his desire for money. Instead, he should state, "I want money and I have money now."

Re: Re: Why Prayers Aren't Answered.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Interestingly, this principle is common to Wicca as well. When one casts a spell, he must state his petition and then affirm that it has been granted. If one was to state, "I want money," he would only increase his desire for money. Instead, he should state, "I want money and I have money now."

Not exactly what we do. We ask, "Lord if it be your will, could I have this...", and when we give thanks it, "We give you thanks..." or "thank you God for...". And that's it...

Re: Re: Why Prayers Aren't Answered.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Interestingly, this principle is common to Wicca as well. When one casts a spell, he must state his petition and then affirm that it has been granted. If one was to state, "I want money," he would only increase his desire for money. Instead, he should state, "I want money and I have money now."

Well if it works, go for it I say. Nothing wrong with believing that it will be.

Yeah I've seen someone who sowed 100 dollars in church service and then year they recieved a check for 10000 dollars.

Originally posted by PrinceofBlades
Not exactly what we do. We ask, "Lord if it be your will, could I have this...", and when we give thanks it, "We give you thanks..." or "thank you God for...". And that's it...

My post is in response to the initial post by debbiejo, hence why it was quoted. I was not necessarily referring to the practices of your particular faith. 🙂

Originally posted by PrinceofBlades
Do not reduce yourself to such manner of discussion. It does not move finiti, and it further proves his point. You must always remain calm in conversations with finiti, for such manners of weakness are quickly exploited in his game...

Thank you for understanding. although I have not been here long I should know his tactics by now. My reply was in a moment of absolute weakness. 😮