Originally posted by Black bolt z
Well isn't presence an actual comic character while TOAA is the embodiment of writer/artist?
Wouldn't that mean that spectre is embodied by a piece of paper while thanos is a piece of paper embodied by a real person?
I wouldn't get too hung up on these things.
Originally posted by cdtmThanos is more powerful than Odin and Spectre without the magic absorbing nonsense was getting beaten by a weakened Shazam. Thanos beats him straight up. Spectre has always been exaggerated.
Exactly how powerful do you think Spectre is?Seriously?
I mean, thanos is sub skyfather.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos is more powerful than Odin and Spectre without the magic absorbing nonsense was getting beaten by a weakened Shazam. Thanos beats him straight up. Spectre has always been exaggerated.
You can't be serious.
He isn't serious, is he
Did the thread get changed to Thanos with IG or HOTU since the first post?
ANYWAYS, Thanos loses, and loses badly.
Spectre may get stomped a lot, but it's usually by the Big Bad like Zero Hour Parallax, or COIE Anti Monitor, and after getting in his licks. We're talking characters that would chew up and spit out a Thanos who wasn't packing the Heart of the Universe. (Assuming the Heart would even affect DC characters.)
Originally posted by cdtmSpectre was fearful of Parallax, was ineffective against Nekron, needed an ampe just to hang with coie Am, was nearly bested by a weakened Shazam. I don't think I need to go on and since Thanos' blasts won't be magical energy he can later acquire Thanos wins this.
ANYWAYS, Thanos loses, and loses badly.Spectre may get stomped a lot, but it's usually by the Big Bad like Zero Hour Parallax, or COIE Anti Monitor, and after getting in his licks. We're talking characters that would chew up and spit out a Thanos who wasn't packing the Heart of the Universe. (Assuming the Heart would even affect DC characters.)
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has the power to beat him on his own considering how well Shazam did while weakened against him.
That thing you did when Archangel Michael was injured by a heaven spear, calling it a low durability showing? You're doing it again.
That's not a low end showing for Spectre. It's a high end showing for Shazam. Thanos could not do what even a weakened Shazam did against Spectre.
And again, Thanos wouldn't last one panel against Zero Hour Parallax, who Spectre fought in an extended battle.
Originally posted by cdtmHe would do even better. Thanos has shields that can tax Galactus and we saw Spectre have to rest and come back for more after the Marvel beatdown. Thanos wears him down and bests him.
That thing you did when Archangel Michael was injured by a heaven spear, calling it a low durability showing? You're doing it again.That's not a low end showing for Spectre. It's a high end showing for Shazam. Thanos could not do what even a weakened Shazam did against Spectre.
And again, Thanos wouldn't last one panel against Zero Hour Parallax, who Spectre fought in an extended battle.
This isn't about Parallax it's about the Spectre.
1. The only reason Thanos could take Maker was because she inhabited a human form, making herself vulnerable.
2. Spectre fighting Zero Hour Parallax on even terms > Thanos surviving an attack from Galactus or a fight with Odin.
You're also ignoring that Captain Marvel was being amped off entire dimensions, draining them dry as a result, and that's the only reason he was able to fight Spectre for a bit.
Originally posted by cdtm1.Ok, but it's still a high feat to dominate her the way she was considering how powerful she was.
1. The only reason Thanos could take Maker was because she inhabited a human form, making herself vulnerable.2. Spectre fighting Zero Hour Parallax on even terms > Thanos surviving an attack from Galactus or a fight with Odin.
You're also ignoring that Captain Marvel was being amped off entire dimensions, draining them dry as a result, and that's the only reason he was able to fight Spectre for a bit.
2.Spectre was afraid and needed aid. Thanos survived an attack from the ig. Ig>>parallax.
Yes, but we saw how badly you can wreck the spectre outside his rest and magical absorption.
My point have been made.
Originally posted by quanchi112
1.Ok, but it's still a high feat to dominate her the way she was considering how powerful she was.
Sure, but that won't help him against Spectre.
2.Spectre was afraid and needed aid. Thanos survived an attack from the ig. Ig>>parallax.
Spectre wasn't afraid in Zero Hour. He's the one who came to the rescue, and depowered Hal through fighting enough for the other heroes to take over.
Yes, but we saw how badly you can wreck the spectre outside his rest and magical absorption.
From Shazam, using every last speck of power from his cache of items. I can't see Thanos duplicating this feat.
My point have been made.
Nothing that really makes a good case for Thanos, IMO.
Also, measuring how well Shazam did is pretty pointless. Spectre falling down isn't indicative of how near defeat he is. No damage to his physical form is indicative of that. Black Adam blew through Spectre's face, him nor Shazam came close to winning those fights. The Shazam fight was also against a Spectre that had been in constant battle. Shit, in the first issue of the arc, he had just slaughtered like 700 mages simultaneously. Proceeded to stomp through Atlantis, took on the JSA and Thunderbolt, etc etc etc.
Nabu, the final guy he fought in the arc, was wondering why Spectre hadn't just destroyed him outright and had no doubts that he could. Spectre was simply doing things the hard way, because he wanted to.
People act like DOV was a random string of low showings that knocked him way down the powerhouse list, but in reality, everyone from the smallest mage to the highest gods and Lords of Order knew they were NOTHING compared to him and it was entirely hopeless, regardless of how much they fought he simply couldn't be defeated, only slow him down and hope someone would come up with something. And Spectre was giving them all drawn out battles simply because he felt like it. Didn't you find it odd that Temptest did about as well as Shazam in the Aquaman tie in!?
Eventually God himself had to stop The Spectre.
Thanos isn't this league, by a large step. Thanos is like a lit cheap hotel quality match to Spectre's big bang.