Originally posted by Air LegendJust because you chase a mortally wounded wolf to it's home and killed it, doesn't mean it wasn't defeated by the guy who stopped it, ruined its plans, wounded it, and sent it packing. My perspective is supported both the panels, context of the stories, and bios and overviews. Nothing supports Anti-Monitor smashing Spectre like a punk, like was being suggested earlier.
❌✅ And Superman defeated him by the definition of defeat.
Similarly Spectre didn't land the final shot on Parallax/Hal Jordan in Zero Hour, but Hal thinks Spectre is the one that beat him, he even mused about the coincidence when he WAS the Spectre.. Secret Files also say Spectre is the one.
Originally posted by Mageeok there then u must be 8 years old. did u not see darkseid and luthor blast the shit out of am as well. it was a team effort to kill am. it wasnt just specrte u see. can u see this? do u think spectre soloed the am and could have beaten him on his own with no help?
I know it might be hard for 10 year olds to comprehend, but Superman would not have been able to put AM down with out the Spectre fighting/ defeating him before hand, understand?
answer the question.
Originally posted by Juntaiwas am done after spectre fought him. no did it atke the combine efforts of many dc characters to kill him while the spectre remained out cold. geez u like giving spectre more credit than he deserves. im not saying he didnt help but that they needed everyone to defeat the am. if u deny this then i am speechless.
Just because you chase a mortally wounded wolf to it's home and killed it, doesn't mean it wasn't defeated by the guy who stopped it, ruined its plans, wounded it, and sent it packing. My perspective is supported both the panels, context of the stories, and bios and overviews. Nothing supports Anti-Monitor smashing Spectre like a punk, like was being suggested earlier.Similarly Spectre didn't land the final shot on Parallax/Hal Jordan in Zero Hour, but Hal thinks Spectre is the one that beat him, he even mused about the coincidence when he WAS the Spectre.. Secret Files also say Spectre is the one.
Originally posted by quanchi112he didn't completely defeat him but he did most of the work. and left the extremely weakened AM for the heroes to beat.
was am done after spectre fought him. no did it atke the combine efforts of many dc characters to kill him while the spectre remained out cold. geez u like giving spectre more credit than he deserves. im not saying he didnt help but that they needed everyone to defeat the am. if u deny this then i am speechless.
Originally posted by Superherovandalwell my point has always been that it wasnt just the spectre who beat him. he prolly did do most of it. i can live with that but he didnt defeat the am. the am still needed to be weakened and was killed by superman.
he didn't completely defeat him but he did most of the work. and left the extremely weakened AM for the heroes to beat.
Originally posted by quanchi112sure but to say that it was because of Supes that AM was defeated would be wrong. if there were one person i would have to give credit for the victory it would have to be Spectre is all I'm saying.
well my point has always been that it wasnt just the spectre who beat him. he prolly did do most of it. i can live with that but he didnt defeat the am. the am still needed to be weakened and was killed by superman.
Originally posted by Superherovandalwhen did i give superman all the credit. i simply said he killed him. which he did. trust me i know the facts.
sure but to say that it was because of Supes that AM was defeated would be wrong. if there were one person i would have to give credit for the victory it would have to be Spectre is all I'm saying.
and there is something glaringly incorrect about your statement. we are giving one being the credit for killing am. its the team as a collective whole.
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Originally posted by quanchi112i'm not saying he did it all by himself. i'm saying that he deserves most of the credit i like the analogy someone made about the wolf....
when did i give superman all the credit. i simply said he killed him. which he did. trust me i know the facts.and there is something glaringly incorrect about your statement. we are giving one being the credit for killing am. its the team as a collective whole.
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Originally posted by Superherovandalok ill give him most of the credit but not all of it. darkseid,luthor and superman played significant roles among others helping.
i'm not saying he did it all by himself. i'm saying that he deserves most of the credit i like the analogy someone made about the wolf....
Originally posted by Superherovandaleach role no matter how big or small played or factored into the am's defeat. u could say the same about them all.
true they played roles...but not significant to the extent Spectre did. without him the Multiverse would be gone and only the AM's universe would exist.
Originally posted by Superherovandaldo u know what would have happened if superman wasnt around in dc. hes always there. not just in this sotry. that wasnt very thought out. superman has more of a significant role in the multiverse than the spectre. and anyways what would happen if luthor and darkseid hadnt blasted am and good.
not really without supes... there could be another hero to beat AM at his deathbed of sorts...but without Spectre there would have been not a single person capable of standing in AM's way...
Originally posted by Juntai
Just because you chase a mortally wounded wolf to it's home and killed it, doesn't mean it wasn't defeated by the guy who stopped it, ruined its plans, wounded it, and sent it packing. My perspective is supported both the panels, context of the stories, and bios and overviews. Nothing supports Anti-Monitor smashing Spectre like a punk, like was being suggested earlier.Similarly Spectre didn't land the final shot on Parallax/Hal Jordan in Zero Hour, but Hal thinks Spectre is the one that beat him, he even mused about the coincidence when he WAS the Spectre.. Secret Files also say Spectre is the one.
Originally posted by Juntai
Just because you chase a mortally wounded wolf to it's home and killed it, doesn't mean it wasn't defeated by the guy who stopped it, ruined its plans, wounded it, and sent it packing. My perspective is supported both the panels, context of the stories, and bios and overviews. Nothing supports Anti-Monitor smashing Spectre like a punk, like was being suggested earlier.Similarly Spectre didn't land the final shot on Parallax/Hal Jordan in Zero Hour, but Hal thinks Spectre is the one that beat him, he even mused about the coincidence when he WAS the Spectre.. Secret Files also say Spectre is the one.