Happy Slapping in the UK

Jackass does not promote fascination with pain and suffering.

It promotes the human trait that very basic things can be funny.

If someone gets hit in the face with a ball out of the blue, it's funny as hell. It's just promoting the cheapest form of humour.

It doesn't promote pain and suffering. Going a bit far there.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Jackass does not promote fascination with pain and suffering.

It promotes the human trait that very basic things can be funny.

If someone gets hit in the face with a ball out of the blue, it's funny as hell. It's just promoting the cheapest form of humour.

It doesn't promote pain and suffering. Going a bit far there.

-AC

AC, you know I didn't mean they love watching some kind of horrific torture... come here and let me kick a ball into your face. Then you tell me it's not painful and you haven't suffered for the entertainment of me 🙄

Most people find groin kicks downright hilarious, as with back waxing; but both hurt like hell. The disturbing thing is, we find that funny when other people get hurt. If I put it this way, I feel guilty. 😮

Yeah but, besides that big change of what you said, you clearly said pain and suffering.

Suffering is not getting hit by an object.

It's not the pain they are laughing at, it's the event.

-AC

Hmm, that makes sense.

Change?? I simply mentioned pain and suffering in the same context. You would experience pain and suffering if I battered you for my own perverted thrills, no?

Suffering is a long term, heavy definition. It's not really applicable to getting hit with an object or even beaten up.

Pain, yes.

You said pain and suffering in conjunction with the show Jackass, saying it promotes the enjoyment of it. It doesn't.

If I see someone get hit with a ball out of nowhere, I don't laugh like "Hahahaha, look at how much pain he's in." I laugh because of how it happened.

-AC

I understand that... but, I still think that it promotes the perverse enjoyment of another's suffering in direct correlation with the pain they endure. You don't suddenly get smacked in the mouth with a bat, say 'ouch' and then feel no pain... therefore you feel the pain and you suffer from it.

Also, have you ever actually been beaten up?? From personal experience I can confirm that I suffered greatly, not just from physical trauma but also mental anguish and emotional turmoil, I was terrified, gutted and severely shaken from the event. I suffered long after it happened and I still shudder now when I think of what could have happened. And all the time those girls were laughing, very obviously enjoying my discomfort and getting more than just a physical kick out of it.

I think AC's trying to say that temporary pain can be sometimes humorous, but lasting suffering is plain disturbing. Like, you wouldn't watch a guy being mauled by a bear on TV and laugh, unless you were sick in the head.

Again, you're trying to shift stances.

You said Jackass promotes pain and suffering, It doesn't. It promotes base humour.

Pain and suffering is what slaves went through, not people on Jackass. You're being overly literal.

-AC

Point taken... perhaps if I had said Jackass promotes a morbid fascination with pain. Full stop?

No, because it doesn't promote a morbid fascination with pain. They aren't emphasising the pain, just the event.

The pain isn't the subject of the humour, the event is.

-AC

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I give up. I really do. Thanks for the discussion, hopefully people will read this and decide for themselves, wouldn't that be a turn up for the books 😉

How can you say that when they get their backs waxed, or their ass cheeks peirced that theyre not focusing on pain?

theyve done plenty of things just because its painful.

I totally back up Syren 100% on this. They do have a fascination with pain, and that fascination gets passed along to viewers who are impressionable, and the guys just walk it off, so they dont see any of the long term consequences of the stunt.

He was arguing against my point that Jackass 'promotes pain and suffering'... I definitely still believe that Jackass promotes pain as something highly humerous as that is how they have made themselves famous, there is no denying that Jackass focuses solely on the pain and humiliation of others. It has played a part in the birth of Happy Slapping, without a doubt IMO.

No no no, you're wrong and you're misunderstanding things.

The show is created to provide viewers with a cheap form of humour. They aren't laughing at the pain, just the event. The pain is just the result of the action, not the point of the show.

I don't think walking around dressed as knights fighting on a tennis court or something like that, played a part in the birth of happy slapping. It's possible, with the idiots.

-AC

You're right about that... but when they dropped balls on one anothers' testicles from a great height and simply stood there and smacked each other around the head, those moments are the moments I believe played a part in happy slapping.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
I don't know if any other nations have this pathetic craze, People assault others and film it on tere mobile phones. Does it happen in other countries or is the uk the only one sick enough?

Are you serious?..people actually do that?

Some of the skits do spawn off events like happy slapping. jackass has had some skits where theyve just plain hauled off and hit each other in the face.

here's a repost of the article from the BBC connecting jackass to the happy slappers
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4539861.stm

Originally posted by Curl_Up&Dye
Some of the skits do spawn off events like happy slapping. jackass has had some skits where theyve just plain hauled off and hit each other in the face.

here's a repost of the article from the BBC connecting jackass to the happy slappers
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4539861.stm

I don't think Jackass promotes this slapping thing..they aren't doing it in a malicious sense..