The Thing vs. Namor - The Submariner

Started by Horrificus10 pages

Originally posted by Spider Boy94
Glass and Steel
not only lifted....
I have seen scans of another building being lifted by Ben. Not even just steel and glass.

Originally posted by -K-M-
That's what I was thinking of. Also that's not a building, it's even shapped like a pyramid (edit: Reed even calls it a glass pyramid) and its hollow on the inside.

This is a pyramid that really exists in paris
and is made of glass and steel ... and weighs more than 100 tons

you want the scan with Grimm raising skyscrapers

however, we are going off topic
back to the subject Thing> Namor

AVX
Thing's punch> Namor's punch

FF9, by Lee and Kirby
Thing> Namor wet
Thing <<< Namor in the sea

FF149
Thing wins

that's all

it is not necessary to mention the "dubious" victory AVX versus
I prefer not to mention it

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
"Current" versions of characters don't ignore said characters consistent histories unless there's been an explicit amp or de-powering.

👆

Originally posted by Spider Boy94
the oil rig.... but the others?

Need to see the scans.

sorry, but.... why do you go off topic?

answer at these:

AVX
Thing's punch> Namor's punch

FF9, by Lee and Kirby
Thing> Namor wet
Thing <<< Namor in the sea

FF149
Thing wins

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
👆

Need to see the scans.


Stilt here are some more of the scans mentioned (ie the suspension bridge, the planet crushing machine, etc...)
http://zak-site.com/Great-American-Novel/ff_thing.html
You need to scroll down toward the middle of the page.

The building lifting feat still isn't there but IF (notice I said IF) I remember it correctly (I don't have the comic, I saw the scan somewhere), the building was a New York "brownstone" 4-6 story building.

Originally posted by Spider Boy94
sorry, but.... why do you go off topic?

I go off-topic by approving one member's post and replying to yours? 😕 That's rich.

Originally posted by Spider Boy94

answer at these:

AVX
Thing's punch> Namor's punch

OK, but only since you asked so nicely 😆

1) That AvX versus issue was written by a woman.
2) Namor's uppercut looked more powerful than Ben's punch.
3) Overall, Namor's striking feats are better than Thing's...

Originally posted by Spider Boy94

FF9, by Lee and Kirby
Thing> Namor wet
Thing <<< Namor in the sea

FF149
Thing wins

These are not their only fights, Namor beat or stalemated him on other occasions... two inconclusive fights in AvX (not including the versus issue) and like I mentioned earlier, Pineapple Thing encounter...

If Johnny's words about it being just him and Namor after Thing got punched weren't enough of a proof to you, then what about the statement on the following page? "All other countermeasures have failed (...)" - face it, Ben got beaten in that one.

Originally posted by zopzop
Stilt here are some more of the scans mentioned (ie the suspension bridge, the planet crushing machine, etc...)
http://zak-site.com/Great-American-Novel/ff_thing.html
You need to scroll down toward the middle of the page.

The building lifting feat still isn't there but IF (notice I said IF) I remember it correctly (I don't have the comic, I saw the scan somewhere), the building was a New York "brownstone" 4-6 story building.

Thank you. Will check it out soon.

all the most absurd excuses are good xD
AvX written by a Woman? and the supervision?
is a nonsense

The Thing has best feats than Namor
and and defeated Top Tier and Above much stronger than Namor

and the opinion of Lee and Kirby?

On the land: Thing >>> Namor
Thing > Namor wet

Originally posted by Spider Boy94
all the most absurd excuses are good xD
AvX written by a Woman? and the supervision?
is a nonsense

It wouldn't be the first time when an editor neglected his job...

Originally posted by Spider Boy94

The Thing has best feats than Namor
and and defeated Top Tier and Above much stronger than Namor

"Better". And no, he doesn't really have better striking feats...

So did Namor 🙂

Originally posted by Spider Boy94

and the opinion of Lee and Kirby?

On the land: Thing >>> Namor
Thing > Namor wet

Characters have evolved since then. They both have become more powerful, Namor got a black suit that keeps him hydrated, etc.

On average, Namor is more powerful out of the two, at least imo. Plenty of feats to back that up.

there is no evidence
As we have seen many times, the Thing has proved stronger of the two
he had beat people who had beat Namor

and has best feats

"Beating the crap out of Spiderboy"

wow, you are very mature
how old are you? 10?

we're just talking about comics

....I think that's been his location on his profile for as long as I can remember.

Originally posted by Spider Boy94
"Beating the crap out of Spiderboy"

wow, you are very mature
how old are you? 10?

we're just talking about comics


He's not referring to you, it's a jab at Spiderman (the comic character). Stilt is not a fan 😛

Originally posted by Spider Boy94
there is no evidence
As we have seen many times, the Thing has proved stronger of the two
he had beat people who had beat Namor

and has best feats

Shattering the crimson bands, making the whole island quiver when he slammed his fists to the ground once (resisting Magneto's power at the same time), knocking out the Hulk... that's only a sample of Namor's strength feats.

And so what? Namor also beat guys that defeated Thing...

He really doesn't.

Originally posted by Spider Boy94
"Beating the crap out of Spiderboy"

wow, you are very mature
how old are you? 10?

we're just talking about comics

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
....I think that's been his location on his profile for as long as I can remember.

That's been my location since the Gargan signature (from the Siege event). Then I changed it to Crossbones during Heroic Age.

who has beaten Namor (on the land) that beat the Thing? Hulk apart?

no-one
he was beaten by Hulk from Black Bolt, Mister Fantastic and Silver Surfer
all beaten by the Thing

Grevieux, the creator of blue marvel, said that the Thing is stronger than Namor
a man, not a woman 😉

Originally posted by Spider Boy94
no-one

Super Skrull, among others. He's also done much better against more hardcore (voided out) version of Sentry.

Spiderboy obviously knows.....well, nothing.

Namors clearly stronger, much faster, probably more durable, etc, etc. See feats for confirmation.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Spiderboy obviously knows.....well, nothing.

Namors clearly stronger, much faster, probably more durable, etc, etc. See feats for confirmation.

I don't mind of Namor is stronger. But, I asked for a comparison of feats from you. I provided some. Waiting for some from Namor.

Originally posted by Horrificus
I don't mind of Namor is stronger. But, I asked for a comparison of feats from you. I provided some. Waiting for some from Namor.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
A little rundown on feats posted here...

[B]Strength Feats

Breaks through the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, WHILE ON LAND, knocking out Doctor Strange.
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/9749/namorfeat19rb.gif
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4775/namorfeat23wb.gif

Is freed from dozens of tons of ice after he has gained only few drops of water.
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5364/namorfeat177fq.gif

Lifts fully loaded tanker (about 110,000 tons without any load, nearly 200,000 with load)
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/2802/namorfeat220rx.gif

Lifts an WWII destroyer that weighs somewhere between 2000-3000 tons and slams it into Attuma with ease.
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4655/hulk1998p266qo.jpg

While being held down by Magneto's power, Namor slams his fists to the ground and makes an impact that causes the entire island to quiver.
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/9995/namorfeat255ii.gif

During an underwater collision, Namor hits Hulk so hard that he flies miles back to the shore and reverts back to Banner. The impact also creates massive tsunamis and earthquakes.
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2563/incrediblehulk118187ji.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3936/incrediblehulk118195ly.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9269/incrediblehulk118200el.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4384/incrediblehulk118211kg.jpg

During a fight against mind-controlled Hulk, Namor creates a massive tidal wave that wipes out an entire island and knocks out Hulk on the same time.
http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/8904/namorfeat266tn.gif

Carries a 50 ton anchor in his right hand.
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9785/namorfeat324hl.gif

Throws a metal vat that weighs at least five tons and throws it at the monster with blinding speeds.
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3470/namorfeat335vj.gif

Throws the anchor together with Triton, making it go very fast.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8383/namorfeat355ag.gif

Namor lifts an submarine and places it safely to shore.
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/6608/namorfeat379pp.gif

Namor lifts an 50 ton tank with one hand and throws it hard enough to hit a flying Boeing 747 that Iron Man is on.
http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/7325/namorfeat393lr.gif

Namor captures the ship of Krang and stops it in it's tracks.
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3853/namorfeat404mw.gif

Namor THROWS an SEASHELL so hard, that it becomes as destructive as artillery shell.
http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/4356/namorfeat410nf.gif

Namor pushes an ship, weighing hundreds of tons to the shore whe he is about 18.
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2245/namorfeat650mp.gif

Namor gets an ship (about 100,000 tons) to safety.
http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat785pf.gif

Weakened Namor benchpresses his own body weight multiplied by a thousand (160 tons)
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/7963/namorfeat894jt.gif

Namor shoves an battleship to safety without trouble. That kind of ships weigh somewhere between 10,000 tons to 50,000 tons, but if I am wrong, inform me.
http://img486.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat902ny.gif
http://img486.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat910lv.gif
http://img486.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat921ig.gif
http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat934wu.gif

Topples an similar ship with one punch:
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6122/namorfeat966tw.gif

Fights army, throwing tanks at the same time:
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2738/namorvsarmy9og.gif

Captain America's vibranium shield can't absorb the power of Namor's punch.
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/886/namorfeat973kv.gif

Speed Feats

Defeats Hulk the first time. (Showing underwater speed)
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/7674/avengers003173hf.jpg

During a fight against mind-controlled Hulk, Namor creates a massive tidal wave that wipes out an entire island and knocks out Hulk on the same time. (Swimming speed)
http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/8904/namorfeat266tn.gif

Dodges an Mach speed attack.
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3664/namorfeat31lb.gif

Defeats Sunfire, showing amazing mobility in air.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4434/namorfeat211qk.gif

Namor drills through tons of hard sea rock by spinning his body at tremendous speeds.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6544/namorfeat302xn.gif

Namor speedblitzes a monster who Plant Man has created while carrying Triton in his hand.
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/6113/namorfeat314gc.gif

Swims at speeds "Beyond belief", and makes a whirpool that takes the metallic cylinders out from sea.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1133/namorfeat341pp.gif

Namor grabs two missiles coming at Mach speeds at him.
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/3176/namorefeat513dy.gif

Namor takes out an object to space with Capt. Marvel.
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5779/namorfeat518ez.gif

Dodges an torpedo with ease, and destroys the ship the torpedo was launched from.
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/5183/namorfeat660vq.gif
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/1045/namorfeat671oy.gif

Namor creates an large whirlpool by swimming very fast.
http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat795ut.gif
http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat808ne.gif

Jumps and reaches meteors (Meteors move with speeds of Mach 32-Mach 221.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30614044285.jpg&s=x11
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30614061841.jpg&s=x11
http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat816ym.gif

Seems to fly faster then any American fighter during the year 1941 (300-400 MPH).

http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorspeedfeat270iu.gif

Outspeeds Human Torch easily while weakened (Human Torch top speed: 150 MPH)

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/4716/namorspeedfeat285tx.gif

Outflys and destroys German fighters.

http://x11.putfile.com/11/30817353015.gif

Outflys and destroys entire fleet of Japanese Kamikaze fighters.

http://x11.putfile.com/11/30904411480.gif

Other Feats

Absorbs millions of volts of electricity and discharges it against Hulk.
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2784/namorfeat235rn.gif

Absorbs an blast from Presence that send Hulk flying, like it was nothing.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9879/namorfeat241uq.gif

Namor has radar sense similar to cave fish, and he is able to locate Invisible Woman with no effort.
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3685/namor24bc.gif

Namor takes a equilavent of miniature nuke straight into face (He was holding it) and is only minorly stunned. The impact hurled him into sea.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6527/namorfeat295yp.gif

Namor (Heroes Reborn) takes direct head shot from Thor's thrown Mjolnir. The shot is so strong that it levels the ground they are standing on, but Namor isn't even knocked out.
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2039/namorfeat367wt.gif

Commanding sea creatures:
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30906385581.gif&s=x11

Unbeatable in his own element...even if someone else is controlling it:
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30906594818.gif&s=x11
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30907002377.gif&s=x11

Can take the powers of any sea creature:
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/7403/namorfeat872sr.gif

Namor survives unharmed after thrown from space.
http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat889cy.gif

Continues down... [/B]

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
[B]Fights

Defeats Hulk the first time.
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/7674/avengers003173hf.jpg

During a fight against mind-controlled Hulk, Namor creates a massive tidal wave that wipes out an entire island and knocks out Hulk on the same time.
http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/8904/namorfeat266tn.gif

Namor laying a beatdown on Super Skrull (The guy who causes trouble to entire Fantastic Four)
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7346/namorfeat475ib.gif

Here is Namor beating Iron Man
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5295/namorfeat594gj.gif

Namor putting Captain Marvel (Genis-Vell in his earlier Incarnation) down with two punches.
http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=submariner30030tz.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=submariner30043jd.jpg

Namor defeats Abomination.
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/345/namorfeat686lx.gif
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/7272/namorfeat691ix.gif
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/4690/namorfeat702bo.gif
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/1112/namorfeat71kopio2wz.gif
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/9911/namorfeat724zw.gif
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/9374/namorfeat737jo.gif

Namor VS Doom.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30815261515.gif&s=x11
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30815272177.gif&s=x11
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30815311057.gif&s=x11
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30815313047.gif&s=x11
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30815340894.gif&s=x11

Namor handling Spider-Man's cowardly attack from behind.
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30708285261.gif&s=x11

Namor Versus Warmachine.
http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warnamor16eb.gif
http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warnamor21dj.gif
http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warnamor37yr.gif
http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warnamor48hw.gif
http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warnamor55gs.gif
http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warnamor69hi.gif

Namor faces Cap.
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captnamor18vl.gif
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captnamor26el.gif
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captnamor31vu.gif

Namor Versus Attuma.
http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat844js.gif
http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat853hz.gif

Defeats Thing with ease while in water.
http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thingseanamor13lk.gif
http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thingseanamor22xu.gif

Cap gets beaten again.
http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvscapt16dm.gif
http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvscapt24wn.gif
http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvscapt32jx.gif
http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvscapt49si.gif
http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvscapt53nu.gif

Namor fighting both Daredevil and Spider-Man.
http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorddspidey16pb.gif
http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorddspidey28lk.gif
http://img327.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorddspidey35wx.gif
http://img327.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorddspidey47sc.gif
http://img327.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorddspidey58dk.gif
http://img327.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorddspidey62ve.gif
http://img327.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorddspidey71tx.gif [/B]

That's it.

But, doesn't Namor have any GOOD strength feats?!