Originally posted by Fionnuala
...it hurts the people who use it and everybody else around them..whatever arguments you use to make it seem okay to get high are bullshit..
what a load of overgeneralised festering excrement. i hurt nobody by smoking a couple of pulls of weed. NOBODY. not me, not you, not ANYONE. i cant stand these twit statements right from the d.a.r.e. handbook. you are completely ignorant of it but yet you're such a frikin expert, and any argument against that is 'bullshit'.
Originally posted by Fionnuala
Drugs that heal people are good, i know that..but how can anybody justify the use of pot or weed or speed of whatever the **** else they call it?...it hurts the people who use it and everybody else around them..whatever arguments you use to make it seem okay to get high are bullshit..
You are unaware that weed has pain numbing properties then? Educate yourself before you choose to enter a debate.
Weed isn't harmful.
Smoking cigarettes harms the person and other people more than any illegal drug, that is a fact. You aren't complaining about that.
Weed has NEVER killed, it HAS helped people in pain. It IS ok, your opinion not withstanding.
Magic Mushrooms rule, you won't know why unless you've taken them. I do, on occasion. Look at me. I happen to also have a very prestigious, high paying job, a great bunch of friends and a tremendous sense of wellbeing and health. If you don't believe me ask my Doc.
Feel free to come around when you know what you're talking about.
-AC
I use drugs. I don't abuse substances, but i do use them and im having a great life, good university grades and tons of friends.
I get endlessly amused by people preaching the all familiar myths about the drugs. Drugs when abused (ie, used to excess) are bad and dangerous, just like anything else that is used in excess.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You are unaware that weed has pain numbing properties then? Educate yourself before you choose to enter a debate.Weed isn't harmful.
Smoking cigarettes harms the person and other people more than any illegal drug, that is a fact. You aren't complaining about that.
Weed has NEVER killed, it HAS helped people in pain. It IS ok, your opinion not withstanding.
Magic Mushrooms rule, you won't know why unless you've taken them. I do, on occasion. Look at me. I happen to also have a very prestigious, high paying job, a great bunch of friends and a tremendous sense of wellbeing and health. If you don't believe me ask my Doc.
Feel free to come around when you know what you're talking about.
-AC
I know that it has pain-numbing properties..that's why I said that I agree with drugs that help people..what I object to is people who use them for recreational purposes which can very easily turn into addiction..it's all very well preaching about users and abusers, it doesn't change the fact that it's dangerous and people will always use it irresponsibly..
And I object very strongly to cigarette smoking, I personally abhor it..it's a disgusting habit that damages other people and drains the health services money..
And I realise you consider yourself an expert on everything but I do know about this and my opinions are backed up with facts and personal experience
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You are unaware that weed has pain numbing properties then? Educate yourself before you choose to enter a debate.Weed isn't harmful.
Smoking cigarettes harms the person and other people more than any illegal drug, that is a fact. You aren't complaining about that.
Weed has NEVER killed, it HAS helped people in pain. It IS ok, your opinion not withstanding.
Magic Mushrooms rule, you won't know why unless you've taken them. I do, on occasion. Look at me. I happen to also have a very prestigious, high paying job, a great bunch of friends and a tremendous sense of wellbeing and health. If you don't believe me ask my Doc.
Feel free to come around when you know what you're talking about.
-AC
i thought we agreed Weed CAN be harmfull. Are you forgetting there are people who have actually experienced it and have not had good stories to tell about it? As for recomending hallucinigans i can't belive you have the gaul to do that, if weed has the potential to cause people problems mushrooms has infinite more of a chance. You are playing russian roulette with drugs like that, and you are recomeninding them?
Earler when i asked if you smoked too much pot i was asking that because i thought i was picking up some drug damage from you, no offense. And i am sorry if i was asking it in a insulting manor. Now your telling me you do mushrooms!!! Mushrooms is infinatley more harmfull to your brain than weed!!!!!!!!!! I am glad you have a great sense of well being and health, there are people that had head injuries that have a great sense of well being and health as well but i am not going to go and run out damage my head, no thanks.
And PVS remember what we deiscussed, sometimes THERE ARE side effects for people and it is damaging to THEM!!!! don't be such a absolutest!
Originally posted by Fionnuala
I know that it has pain-numbing properties..that's why I said that I agree with drugs that help people..what I object to is people who use them for recreational purposes which can very easily turn into addiction..it's all very well preaching about users and abusers, it doesn't change the fact that it's dangerous and people will always use it irresponsibly..
Why though? Why do you object to people using it for recreational purpose that could turn into addiction? It's absolutely none of your business and it doesn't affect you one bit. Smoking is used for that purpose, you're not complaining. Yet, it does more damage than ANY illegal drug. Fact.
Yes, people WILL use drugs irresponsibly, so they'll suffer for it. But that goes for anything, not just drugs. People are always gonna be irresponsible with many things, it doesn't make those things wrong just because the people are irresponsible. No, weed isn't dangerous. Nor are Mushrooms, nor are many drugs. You're either going by what you read, hear or see, or you're just extremely naive. There are very dangerous drugs but weed is not one of them and for you to claim it's bullshit to say getting high is ok, is bullshit itself.
Originally posted by Fionnuala
And I object very strongly to cigarette smoking, I personally abhor it..it's a disgusting habit that damages other people and drains the health services money..
Exactly. Weed doesn't even damage the person smoking it, it's second hand smoke is next to nothing. You are quite uninformed.
Originally posted by Fionnuala
And I realise you consider yourself an expert on everything but I do know about this and my opinions are backed up with facts and personal experience
A) I don't.
B) So are mine, well whoopty do.
Tell me your facts then. Come on, I'm sure they'll be a fascinating read. Because I've actually gave you fact and the only reason you can come up with to go against it is "Because it can become addiction." Which has f*ck all to do with you anyway.
So by all means throw out some facts that show us why all drugs are absolutely terrifyingly dangerous and should never ever be used. Because I've got facts and experience, personal and otherwise, to prove you wrong.
You've got, "Because it becomes addiction."
Yeah, surely a concrete debate.
Originally posted by moviejunkie23
i thought we agreed Weed CAN be harmfull. Are you forgetting there are people who have actually experienced it and have not had good stories to tell about it?
The "harmful" side is barely harmful. It's so incredibly minute. Proof? Again, Pot has never ever killed. Ever. It HAS, however, proven to have great qualities. You obviously think you can convince people not to use weed based on wish washy claims of harm.
Originally posted by moviejunkie23
As for recomending hallucinigans i can't belive you have the gaul to do that, if weed has the potential to cause people problems mushrooms has infinite more of a chance. You are playing russian roulette with drugs like that, and you are recomeninding them?
And you base the information in the above quote, on? On what? What are you basing it on? Because I can speak from the perspective of someone who's used them. It's one of the most mind expanding experiences you can achieve. It makes you realise and see many things that the human brain isn't otherwise capable of seeing. I'm no addict, I'm not damaged and my life is fine.
So show me proof that Mushrooms have 'infinite' more chance to do harm than weed. I'm sure it'll be good. Or dumb. One of the two.
Originally posted by moviejunkie23
Earler when i asked if you smoked too much pot i was asking that because i thought i was picking up some drug damage from you, no offense. And i am sorry if i was asking it in a insulting manor. Now your telling me you do mushrooms!!! Mushrooms is infinatley more harmfull to your brain than weed!!!!!!!!!! I am glad you have a great sense of well being and health, there are people that had head injuries that have a great sense of well being and health as well but i am not going to go and run out damage my head, no thanks.
Weed doesn't even cause harm. What are you not getting about this? Why are you not picking this up? The "harm" side (if you can call it that) is SO incredibly minute that it's actually harmless. WEED doesn't cause those effects, the method in which you USE the weed does. Smoking. If you put weed in a cake, you're not gonna get those harmful effects because you're not taking smoke into your lungs. The fact that it's weed smoke makes no difference, it's the procedure, not the substance.
How are Mushrooms infinitely more harmful? Ever taken them? Or are you going by guess games again? Because you're wrong, by a long long long way. Just because someone takes something and gets a bad end of it, doesn't mean the drug is bad. I could get in a car and drive it into a wall, it doesn't mean driving is bad, it just means I had a bad experience. There's a difference and you fail to recognise it in your pitiful crusade of shouting out speculatory comments.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You are unaware that weed has pain numbing properties then? Educate yourself before you choose to enter a debate.Weed isn't harmful.
Smoking cigarettes harms the person and other people more than any illegal drug, that is a fact. You aren't complaining about that.
Weed has NEVER killed, it HAS helped people in pain. It IS ok, your opinion not withstanding.
Magic Mushrooms rule, you won't know why unless you've taken them. I do, on occasion. Look at me. I happen to also have a very prestigious, high paying job, a great bunch of friends and a tremendous sense of wellbeing and health. If you don't believe me ask my Doc.
Feel free to come around when you know what you're talking about.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why though? Why do you object to people using it for recreational purpose that could turn into addiction? It's absolutely none of your business and it doesn't affect you one bit. Smoking is used for that purpose, you're not complaining. Yet, it does more damage than ANY illegal drug. Fact.Yes, people WILL use drugs irresponsibly, so they'll suffer for it. But that goes for anything, not just drugs. People are always gonna be irresponsible with many things, it doesn't make those things wrong just because the people are irresponsible. No, weed isn't dangerous. Nor are Mushrooms, nor are many drugs. You're either going by what you read, hear or see, or you're just extremely naive. There are very dangerous drugs but weed is not one of them and for you to claim it's bullshit to say getting high is ok, is bullshit itself.
Exactly. Weed doesn't even damage the person smoking it, it's second hand smoke is next to nothing. You are quite uninformed.
A) I don't.
B) So are mine, well whoopty do.
Tell me your facts then. Come on, I'm sure they'll be a fascinating read. Because I've actually gave you fact and the only reason you can come up with to go against it is "Because it can become addiction." Which has f*ck all to do with you anyway.
So by all means throw out some facts that show us why all drugs are absolutely terrifyingly dangerous and should never ever be used. Because I've got facts and experience, personal and otherwise, to prove you wrong.
You've got, "Because it becomes addiction."
Yeah, surely a concrete debate.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why though? Why do you object to people using it for recreational purpose that could turn into addiction? It's absolutely none of your business and it doesn't affect you one bit. Smoking is used for that purpose, you're not complaining. Yet, it does more damage than ANY illegal drug. Fact.Yes, people WILL use drugs irresponsibly, so they'll suffer for it. But that goes for anything, not just drugs. People are always gonna be irresponsible with many things, it doesn't make those things wrong just because the people are irresponsible. No, weed isn't dangerous. Nor are Mushrooms, nor are many drugs. You're either going by what you read, hear or see, or you're just extremely naive. There are very dangerous drugs but weed is not one of them and for you to claim it's bullshit to say getting high is ok, is bullshit itself.
Exactly. Weed doesn't even damage the person smoking it, it's second hand smoke is next to nothing. You are quite uninformed.
A) I don't.
B) So are mine, well whoopty do.
Tell me your facts then. Come on, I'm sure they'll be a fascinating read. Because I've actually gave you fact and the only reason you can come up with to go against it is "Because it can become addiction." Which has f*ck all to do with you anyway.
So by all means throw out some facts that show us why all drugs are absolutely terrifyingly dangerous and should never ever be used. Because I've got facts and experience, personal and otherwise, to prove you wrong.
You've got, "Because it becomes addiction."
Yeah, surely a concrete debate.
-AC
do you think its a coincidence i was picking up a vibe of drug damage from you AC??? and then later i find out you pop shrooms . Maybe we should list that as evidence. That makes me saad man. I don't even think you can tell the actuall effects that they may have done to you You know how dangerous shrooms are???
Originally posted by moviejunkie23
do you think its a coincidence i was picking up a vibe of drug damage from you AC??? and then later i find out you pop shrooms . Maybe we should list that as evidence. That makes me saad man. I don't even think you can tell the actuall effects that they may have done to you You know how dangerous shrooms are???
Please, enlighten me as to how dangerous shrooms are.
White rabbits would certainly not agree, seeing how they purposly look for them around june/july time to eat them.
Pop shrooms? Hahaha. Funny, clearly uninformed. Go up and read my edited post. Because your overly false, phoney hyped speculation is growing dull.
Stop telling me how damaged I am, do you even listen to yourself? You sound like a preacher. Goddamn. Chill out.
Don't try and reinforce your failing debate by telling me that I'm damaged. I can tell you that I researched the drug and all its possible effects many many times before I decided to take it in a safe area. I don't believe you should just dive in with drugs, you should take the time to know what you're getting into.
I did and I'm fine. Don't give me that "I can sense drug damage" bs. Because all you can do is read my text.
You're so unbelievably naive and uninformed that it's depressing.
Oh and Fece, yeah it's looking pretty good.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Pop shrooms? Hahaha. Funny, clearly uninformed. Go up and read my edited post. Because your overly false, phoney hyped speculation is growing dull.Stop telling me how damaged I am, do you even listen to yourself? You sound like a preacher. Goddamn. Chill out.
Don't try and reinforce your failing debate by telling me that I'm damaged. I can tell you that I researched the drug and all its possible effects many many times before I decided to take it in a safe area. I don't believe you should just dive in with drugs, you should take the time to know what you're getting into.
I did and I'm fine. Don't give me that "I can sense drug damage" bs. Because all you can do is read my text.
You're so unbelievably naive and uninformed that it's depressing.
Oh and Fece, yeah it's looking pretty good.
How do you think i guessed anyway? your the only person i said i am picking up drug damage from this post and it turns out you use mushrooms, that is far more potent and has much longer lasting effects than weed.
Do you think i was randomly taking a shot at someone in the post? no. there was a reason i asked you personaly? Can you guess why i asked if you had drug damage in your brain?-AC
Originally posted by lil bitchiness#
I use drugs. I don't abuse substances, but i do use them and im having a great life, good university grades and tons of friends.I get endlessly amused by people preaching the all familiar myths about the drugs. Drugs when abused (ie, used to excess) are bad and dangerous, just like anything else that is used in excess.
If I said anything, it would sound like this, I totally agree.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Pop shrooms? Hahaha. Funny, clearly uninformed. Go up and read my edited post. Because your overly false, phoney hyped speculation is growing dull.Stop telling me how damaged I am, do you even listen to yourself? You sound like a preacher. Goddamn. Chill out.
Don't try and reinforce your failing debate by telling me that I'm damaged. I can tell you that I researched the drug and all its possible effects many many times before I decided to take it in a safe area. I don't believe you should just dive in with drugs, you should take the time to know what you're getting into.
I did and I'm fine. Don't give me that "I can sense drug damage" bs. Because all you can do is read my text.
You're so unbelievably naive and uninformed that it's depressing.
Oh and Fece, yeah it's looking pretty good.
-AC
Well out of everyone in the post your the only person i had a strong intincual feeling that you were a little drug damaged. Notice i didn't ask anyone else this in the post. It was not a coincidence i asked you that, then it turns out you do a drug far more potent than weed. I wasn't just grasping for straws and asking a random person that question, i asked if you were a little head damaged from the drugs for a reason. Its not as if you sound like a mental retard or anything like that, it just sounds like if you took a real sharp knife and dulled it heavily, thats what it sounds like. But be carfeull AC because sometimes the real negative effects from shroom use happen later in life. I have heard that from a few "retired hippies" so keep your eyes open and keep the lithium at the ready just in case pal.
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Originally posted by moviejunkie23
How do you think i guessed anyway? your the only person i said i am picking up drug damage from this post and it turns out you use mushrooms, that is far more potent and has much longer lasting effects than weed.
Do you think i was randomly taking a shot at someone in the post? no. there was a reason i asked you personaly? Can you guess why i asked if you had drug damage in your brain?
I don't know how you guessed. I just know that you guessed, and guessing is like assuming and shouldn't be done.
Because you assumed I had been damaged by drugs just because I'm debating against you. You assumed I had been damaged by reading the text I post. Rather ridiculous.
Yeah, shrooms are more potent than weed. So? I'm waiting for the proof that they are infinitely more harmful and incredibly damaging. I want you to give me proof of that. Because I have alot more backing me up than you do.
So go for it champ.
Originally posted by moviejunkie23
Well out of everyone in the post your the only person i had a strong intincual feeling that you were a little drug damaged. Notice i didn't ask anyone else this in the post. It was not a coincidence i asked you that, then it turns out you do a drug far more potent than weed. I wasn't just grasping for straws and asking a random person that question, i asked if you were a little head damaged from the drugs for a reason. Its not as if you sound like a mental retard or anything like that, it just sounds like if you took a real sharp knife and dulled it heavily, thats what it sounds like. But be carfeull AC because sometimes the real negative effects from shroom use happen later in life. I have heard that from a few "retired hippies" so keep your eyes open and keep the lithium at the ready just in case pal.
What in the hell? You have got to be the most self-righteous, presumptuous, uninformed poster I have seen on here in a long time.
I don't "do" mushrooms regularly. I use them once in a while. I use them when I choose to and I can and have gone years without using them again.
I'm not dulling anything, I'm one of the most intelligent posters on this board. Arrogant? Yeah. True? Yeah. Don't try and back yourself up by swerving off topic and claiming that you can retrieve all this information from text on a messageboard. It doesn't hold water.
I don't need to be told what risks are and are not there, thanks. Stop thinking that you are giving everyone info that they are unaware of. Because you don't know much at all about what you are saying. Hence why I'm still waiting for proof.
-AC
Originally posted by moviejunkie23
Well out of everyone in the post your the only person i had a strong intincual feeling that you were a little drug damaged. Notice i didn't ask anyone else this in the post. It was not a coincidence i asked you that, then it turns out you do a drug far more potent than weed. I wasn't just grasping for straws and asking a random person that question, i asked if you were a little head damaged from the drugs for a reason. Its not as if you sound like a mental retard or anything like that, it just sounds like if you took a real sharp knife and dulled it heavily, thats what it sounds like. But be carfeull AC because sometimes the real negative effects from shroom use happen later in life. I have heard that from a few "retired hippies" so keep your eyes open and keep the lithium at the ready just in case pal.
Now you are attacking him personally? Why? I've done drugs harder than weed, I do them in moderation and I'm fine, I thought this was a debate about pot, not about wether AC is "drug damaged", I'm sorry but he seems far too coherent for someone who is.
And believe me, I know what certain drugs can do to you and sorry, but I don't think he is.