Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Does drinking alcohol lead to taking smack? Does smoking lead to popping X? No. Don't try that 'Taking one illegal drug leads to the rest' BS.If there are any teens reading this, don't dive into drugs unprepared or unresearched. Be responsible or suffer for your actions, don't **** it up for everyone.
Take mushrooms.
-AC
Then don't drink, i don't. But everyone is aware of the harmfull effects of booze. It seems the denial is taking place not with crack , herione, booze, its taking place with weed.
and AC might i ask why you don't smoke?
i never said it was 'fine' or 'good' or 'healthy' like you love to pin on me. weak dude.
i said its not deadly, it wont cause brain damage. its NOT addictive, but rather habit forming. there is nothing addictive about it.
as far as your grandstanding guilt trip, more weakness 😬
only one anti-pot member of this KMC community has my respect. his name is draco and he doesnt drink and feels alcohol and cigarettes should be banned. i dont agree with him, but at least he's not a narrow minded hypocrite. that i respect.
Originally posted by moviejunkie23
Then don't drink, i don't. But everyone is aware of the harmfull effects of booze. It seems the denial is taking place not with crack , herione, booze, its taking place with weed.
and AC might i ask why you don't smoke?
Because booze kills, tobacco kills. Weed doesn't.
Weed DOESN'T KILL, it HASN'T killed. It HAS positive effects. It's as harmless as you will get. The "harms" if you can even call them such, are not even worth mentioning. They're so minute.
I don't smoke because I don't like the idea of smoking anything. I personally choose not to.
-AC
i have shown you nothing but respect.
i have not insulted you and called you "narrow minded" or a "hypocrite" even though i don't agree with you PVS
I don't know why your so angry with me. I have to ask myself maybe your feeling a bit offensive because you have smoked a few times?
I am stead fast in my belief because i have seen it in people around me and its not to hard to see the effects on allot of people. It means something to me because i don't want people to be duped into something that could potentially be harmfull to them.
Originally posted by moviejunkie23
You are telling me that it is not uncommon for most people that do harder drugs that they started off with weed? there are many people that needed something more potent after weed for awile so they moved on to something more potent. Its a gate way drug, don't play denial
i dont play anything.
you are playing expert and demonising people who smoke pot.
that means i, and many take it personal. wtf right do you have to judge what you dont know? you dont know shit about this pal. so save your stories of some friend of a friend who got addicted to pot and biting his nails because its weak and irrelevant.
i had a friend who couldnt spend a minute without being stoned, or f**ed up in some way. the weed didnt cause it, but his own unhappiness. he started out by doing nitrous oxide hits from whip cream and butane cans. any drug is a 'gateway drug' including alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, antihistamines, model glue, ANYTHING that gets you f***ed up. use some goddamn logic man!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by PVS
i dont play anything.
you are playing expert and demonising people who smoke pot.
that means i, and many take it personal. wtf right do you have to judge what you dont know? you dont know shit about this pal. so save your stories of some friend of a friend who got addicted to pot and biting his nails because its weak and irrelevant.i had a friend who couldnt spend a minute without being stoned, or f**ed up in some way. the weed didnt cause it, but his own unhappiness. he started out by doing nitrous oxide hits from whip cream and butane cans. any drug is a 'gateway drug' including alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, antihistamines, model glue, ANYTHING that gets you f***ed up. use some goddamn logic man!!!!!!!!!!
well maybe i was weak and irrelevant then when i smoked weed. because i did for about 3 years, and towards the end of it i had panic attacks and paranoia. At one point i thought my friend was a undercover cop. It was not fun. Sure i am weak minded whatever. But is it possible lots of weak minded people like me may take the line your giving them and begin to smoke pot because they were told it was harmless??? that isn't fair to them, they should know the potential of what they are getting into
and hundreds of other people that have been told its OK. Now PVS we have established it is not good for ME and it is ok for YOU. now when you tell people that its not harmfull their will be many that it is harmfull to THEM. its all about numbers. And the people it is harmfull to THEM should have the heads up of that potential don't you think?
all i am saying is that its not harmful for the MAJORITY.
sorry to hear your mind cant handle it, but maybe thats a blessing in disguise and that it is bad for YOU anyway, and you are better off sober.
that does not mean you are an expert on its effects, just that you are an expert on its effects on you.
i started smoking it at 18. since then i went months stoned off my ass, and took years off because i lost interest. a few months ago i bought a large quantity and had a ball for a few weeks....then when it was gone i stopped. its no big frikin deal. most of the time i dont even feel stoned anymore, but rather an enhanced relaxation. whatever though. thats me and thats you. neither of us has a right to tell anyone what to do. thats the beauty of life . we make our own choices, and we learn about ourselves through those choices.
and nobody is going to smoke weed because someone here said its ok. curiosity is not born in these threads. they're going to try it anyway. you put way too much stock in our opinions here. ultimately it doesnt even matter.
Originally posted by moviejunkie23
no you shoud be allowed to have a beer, but you also realise theere may be negative effects from it correct???
wehn i drink beer i am fine and i enjoy myself. Others are not like this. It would be pomposs to say hey your just weak minded booze is not bad for you at all.
well, how about this.
let us try a test.
i will estimate the amount of weed it takes to get me stoned (2 pulls normally) and you estimate the amount of alcohol it takes you to get a comfortable buzz going. we will then multiply that by 10.
i will smoke 20 hits and you will drink 10 times the amount it takes to get you buzzed. when i wake up with a mildly sore thought, and you wake up in the hospital getting your stomach pumped (if you're lucky) then you may understand where i'm going with this.
Originally posted by PVS
all i am saying is that its not harmful for the MAJORITY.
sorry to hear your mind cant handle it, but maybe thats a blessing in disguise and that it is bad for YOU anyway, and you are better off sober.that does not mean you are an expert on its effects, just that you are an expert on its effects on you.
i started smoking it at 18. since then i went months stoned off my ass, and took years off because i lost interest. a few months ago i bought a large quantity and had a ball for a few weeks....then when it was gone i stopped. its no big frikin deal. most of the time i dont even feel stoned anymore, but rather an enhanced relaxation. whatever though. thats me and thats you. neither of us has a right to tell anyone what to do. thats the beauty of life . we make our own choices, and we learn about ourselves through those choices.
and nobody is going to smoke weed because someone here said its ok. curiosity is not born in these threads. they're going to try it anyway. you put way too much stock in our opinions here. ultimately it doesnt even matter.
I can drink no problem, thogh i raley drink because i don;t like the idea of killing my brain cells. I do not get addicted and i enjoy myself and am a happy drinker. Fine. There are people that are not happy drinkers PVS. should i walk around and say there are not that bad of side effects and drinking is a bgreat thing, or should i say its great for me but be carefull because not everyone handles it the same. Maybe i should just discount people that have drinking problems as a weak minority. that would be quite pomposs of me don't you think? Maybe it depends on the person, and maybe in many cases, just like some for booze, weed is a harmfull drug. So just because its fine for you doesn't mean its not bad for others.
Originally posted by PVS
well, how about this.let us try a test.
i will estimate the amount of weed it takes to get me stoned (2 pulls normally) and you estimate the amount of alcohol it takes you to get a comfortable buzz going. we will then multiply that by 10.
i will smoke 20 hits and you will drink 10 times the amount it takes to get you buzzed. when i wake up with a mildly sore thought, and you wake up in the hospital getting your stomach pumped (if you're lucky) then you may understand where i'm going with this.
actually you smoke as much as you like i will just have a few beers because someone who drinks responsibley will not drink that much. and anyone that cannot control themselves when they drink should not be drinking. Just like people that experience the negative effects of weed should not be smoking
Originally posted by moviejunkie23
actually you smoke as much as you like i will just have a few beers because someone who drinks responsibley will not drink that much. and anyone that cannot control themselves when they drink should not be drinking. Just like people that experience the negative effects of weed should not be smoking
ok.. 😕 ..agreed.....so what about all this mystical power weed has in making you take drugs...that alcohol has nothing to do with?