Originally posted by Decayyour basing this off of the OT aren't you? 🙄
spider-man vs non suit anakin i think would go straight to anakin, but vader is only 80% of what hed be without the suit. he isnt as mobile or fast,
Originally posted by DecayNo, he'd have to land a hit in order for his strength to be a factor.
and with spider-mans strength (he can lift 10 ton) i think he really has a chance.
Originally posted by DecayNo, not really.
hes alot faster than vader
Originally posted by DecayYeah but you'll discard this in a second here.
and can sense where an attack is comming from before it comes, just like vader.
Originally posted by DecaySee?
with his speed and webbing i think he can neutralise the force choke, hed sense it comming and dive out of the way,
Spiderman now senses attacks before they are initiated? Are you telling me that spiderman now moves faster than 30 meters a second?
Originally posted by DecayYou don't know anything about vader appearently.
vader couldnt focus it fast enough.
Originally posted by DecayAnd why wouldn't he? He's got precog too so he can see aspiderman's attacks before they come.
the lightsaber could end it very quickly though if vader got a hit in,
And its a true precog not the spider sense which people keep overestimating.
Originally posted by DecayYou have to land the kick, your'e competeing with the force and a lightsaber.
and even with his suit hes nowhere near being an easy kill. a solid kick to the chest could skrew up all his life support gear though.
Originally posted by DecayThe force enhances a persons speed as well. and strength is negated since spiderman can't land a hit due to the precog vader has and his speed, and that lightsaber.
i think its very close, but the extra speed and strength give it to spider-man.
Originally posted by DecayNot really.
he can negate vaders force choke
Originally posted by Decay
and can match his ability to see things comming
The spider sense isn't quite the same. The force lets you see what it is rather than just that it is something.
Originally posted by DecayYay for fanboyism. w00t!
and hes got too much else going for him for vader to match.
Originally posted by ZephroCarnelianNo, but other people have.
Did I say anything whatsoever about Order 66 in my post?
Originally posted by Decay
spider-man vs non suit anakin i think would go straight to anakin, but vader is only 80% of what hed be without the suit. he isnt as mobile or fast
In a recent interview with George Lucas, the man himself said that Anakin lost some of his potential because he got wounded so bad (losing arms and legs and whatever) in Ep. III.
That's also - again according to George Lucas - the reason why Vader isn't THAT powerful in the classic trilogy, or at least not as powerful as some people seem to think he is.
Force choke.
I'm sorry, but there's just no way round it.
Spidey: Hey! What kind of Galactic Emperor employs asthmatic body...uugh!...aaargh!...*gasp*
Thud.
The end.
There is nothing more to say.
Spidey cannot move faster than the force.
As soon as Vader looks at Spidey, he can kill him. Spidey cannot resist - he's not trained in the force.
Originally posted by who?-kidFallacy of logical exclusion.
The last part is TRUE.In a recent interview with George Lucas, the man himself said that Anakin lost some of his potential because he got wounded so bad (losing arms and legs and whatever) in Ep. III.
That's also - again according to George Lucas - the reason why Vader isn't THAT powerful in the classic trilogy, or at least not as powerful as some people seem to think he is.
Because Anakin's body is so injured in Episode III, he isn't as strong in the Force as the Emperor
tsk tsk.
wow Creshosk, you really went to town on my post. i still stand by most of it, maybe i havent read enough eu vader stuff, or maybe you havent read enough spider-man. im a big vader fan but i dont really have access to eu stuff apart from what i can dig up online. i think he could take out most marvels characters with powers in the same class as spidermand but i just dont think he has the speed to keep up. his spider sense does nore than just say "something is comming". it tells him where its comming from and how dangerous it is. i think knowing vader is about to attack his throat he dive out of the way and keep moving until he didnt sense danger. also i think a solid shot with his webbing to the face or chest could make vader let go, maybe not becuase it would damage him personally but it might skrew with his suit a bit. there is some site i looked at on the injurys of vader and hes pretty messed up, i know hes incredibly powerful and it would be a very close fight, but i still think in the end spider-man would take the win. if he could web vaders saber away from him i think hed have alot easier a time, but i dont think vader is too likley to part with it.
Originally posted by Decay30 m/s is too slow? wow. . .
wow Creshosk, you really went to town on my post. i still stand by most of it, maybe i havent read enough eu vader stuff, or maybe you havent read enough spider-man. im a big vader fan but i dont really have access to eu stuff apart from what i can dig up online. i think he could take out most marvels characters with powers in the same class as spidermand but i just dont think he has the speed to keep up.
Originally posted by DecayBut it doesn't tell him what it is.
his spider sense does nore than just say "something is comming". it tells him where its comming from and how dangerous it is.
Originally posted by DecayAs soon as vader initiated the attack it's already on spiderman. He doesn't sense an attack before it's initiated. . . Oh wait is this fanboy spidey I'm arguing against? That guy can sense where a teleport is going to teleport to before the teleporter teleports. So I guess he can also sense how and where a person is going to attack before they attack.
i think knowing vader is about to attack his throat
Originally posted by DecayAnd again with that infinitly fast webbing again.
he dive out of the way and keep moving until he didnt sense danger. also i think a solid shot with his webbing to the face or chest could make vader let go, maybe not becuase it would damage him personally but it might skrew with his suit a bit. there is some site i looked at on the injurys of vader and hes pretty messed up, i know hes incredibly powerful and it would be a very close fight, but i still think in the end spider-man would take the win. if he could web vaders saber away from him i think hed have alot easier a time, but i dont think vader is too likley to part with it.
Vader an other jedi block blaster bolts. You think he can't block webbing from spidey?
Originally posted by who?-kidYou mean like how you spiderman fans know more about spiderman than marvel does?
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Hey, my mistake okay.I just assumed that George Lucas would know it better than you
Originally posted by who?-kidHeh, that's funny, seeing as how my quote is a direct quote from the recent interveiw.
, but I guess I was wrong...😉
You're trying to decieve us by making it seem that vader isn't as adept in the force as WE thought he was. When it was a comparison to the emporer.
You decietful decitful thing you.
Originally posted by who?-kidYou mean like how I don't know anything about star wars because different sources had different amounts for ANH's budget?
Don't put words in my mouth. I'm only countering the "Godlike" Darth Vader-arguments here.
Or how Vader can't sense Spiderman's prescence since the force didn't tell Vader that Luke was his kid?
Yeah the spidey fans supporters have some really great arguments too. . .
as far as i know, the spider sense is knowing something is going to happen before it happens, knowing a bad guy is about to show up behind him before the bad guy has done it. knowing hes going to be punched in the face before the punch is thrown, and knowing that hes about to be choked, before hes choked. if he couldnt tell it was going to happen before it did it wouldnt be a spider sense, it would just be really fast reflexes. also, in reguards to saying that vader can block webbing i agree, he could force push it away if need be, but with his force choke applied and some of his focus on it spider-mans webbing would be fast enough to give him a quick shot to the face, giving him enough time to deliver a decent enough hit to vader to stop the choke. i might have some of my facts wrong being that i dont have access to many comics and things so correct me if some of my info onspider-man is incorrect, or vader for that matter.
Originally posted by DecayBefore they even throw the punch. Ha! that's greatm, so now fanboy powered spidey is a mind reader too. 😉
as far as i know, the spider sense is knowing something is going to happen before it happens, knowing a bad guy is about to show up behind him before the bad guy has done it. knowing hes going to be punched in the face before the punch is thrown, and knowing that hes about to be choked, before hes choked. if he couldnt tell it was going to happen before it did it wouldnt be a spider sense, it would just be really fast reflexes. also, in reguards to saying that vader can block webbing i agree, he could force push it away if need be, but with his force choke applied and some of his focus on it spider-mans webbing would be fast enough to give him a quick shot to the face, giving him enough time to deliver a decent enough hit to vader to stop the choke. i might have some of my facts wrong being that i dont have access to many comics and things so correct me if some of my info onspider-man is incorrect, or vader for that matter.
Or does this still fall under his uber precog where he sees what a character is going to do before the person is even born? 😂
Vader has two hands you know.