Darth Vader vs. Spider-Man

I think this is getting too personal.

Vader still bites the dust though, like movie-Vader almost always does when fighting someone who is a little bit dangerous :

1. First fight => with Obi : Obi is even a lot older than him, and Vader just can't kill him. Or even hurt him.
2. Second fight => with a young and unexperienced "jedi", who even manages to escape. Vader manages to cut of his hand, but it's not like it was the easiest fight ever.
3. Third fight = with a young and less unexperienced "jedi" : Vader gets free swordfighting lessons.

My my, I didn't know he was that impressive...

Or, was it... the budget ?

Originally posted by who?-kid
I think this is getting too personal.

Vader still bites the dust though, like movie-Vader almost always does when fighting someone who is a little bit dangerous :

1. First fight => with Obi : Obi is even a lot older than him, and Vader just can't kill him. Or even hurt him.
2. Second fight => with a young and unexperienced "jedi", who even manages to escape. Vader manages to cut of his hand, but it's not like it was the easiest fight ever.
3. Third fight = with a young and less unexperienced "jedi" : Vader gets free swordfighting lessons.

My my, I didn't know he was that impressive...

Or, was it... the budget ?

Ok who kid, way to prove nothing. Go back to the last page where i wrote a book on spiderman and vador. Read that, then stop comparing vador to other jedi's. Otherwise we will have to argue if obi wan can beat spiderman...which I think he can, or if luke skywalker can beat spiderman, or if mace windu can beat spiderman blah blah blah. Get the point....your comparing apples to oranges.

Originally posted by sumbum
Ok who kid, way to prove nothing. Go back to the last page where i wrote a book on spiderman and vador.

Read that, then stop comparing vador to other jedi's.

Otherwise we will have to argue if obi wan can beat spiderman..

or if luke skywalker can beat spiderman

or if mace windu can beat spiderman

blah blah blah

Originally posted by who?-kid
No thanks, I saw the movie, that's enough. And was I wrong about the fights ? Didn't think so.
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Vader is (or better : was) a Jedi. Why can't I compare him with other Jedis ? Because he'll loose some of his shining, invincible aura ?
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No he can't.
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No he can't.
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No he can't
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No he... oops

force or not, vader owns.

this is a disgrace. the Force is way too powerful to be compared to spidey

Spiderman is no match for any decent level Jedi. The Jedi have a true precog, not just a tingling.

Spiderman tries to webshot Vader, vader can force block it or block with his lightsaber.

If Spiderman tries to punch vader, Vader can chop his arm off ar force push him into a wall.

Put it this way who-brat, the newer stuff overrides the olderstuff right?

Otherwise we could argue spiderman's first appearence where he was unexperienced. Newer stuff overrides.

Spiderman has nothing to compete with the force. The Jedi use the force to enhance their speed beyond human limitations. So the jedi do have superhuman speed strength agility and a precog.

Hell Vader could force pull spiderman into the lightsaber blade.

darth vader is spidermans father when are you all gonna get that through your thick heads he would never hurt his own son lol

In a fight between these to IMHO i think vader would win....even thou i'm a fan of spidey's and i would want him to win I think the Force would be stonger....As for spidey being faster then vader....Hell vader can stop laser blasts with his lightsaber.....I think thats pretty fast as well and what could webbing posibly do against a lighsaber...given that vader does not have to be holding his lightsaber to wield it..he could just use the force...i have a hard time seeing how spidey would be able to counter the force

this truley is past the point of ridiculous......now vador's precog is in question....

vader = a sith lord, "super elite" class fighting ability, with supposedly more force power at his disposal than the emporer....

Luke was a kid unaware he even had potential to use the force and was able to block lazers with his lightsaber while "blindfolded" but now vader's gonna be caught by surprise from spiderman? 😂

......spidey fanboys, ya gotta love em 🙄

and cordera I have enough stalkers....but at least their females......you're beginning to creep me out 😕

Movie Vader : a joke.

Other not-that-much-in-continuity-Vader : has a decent chance, i'll admit. But tell me : why did Vader in the comics have so much trouble with Fett, who is - sorry all Fett lovers out there - just a good fighter with some gadgets ?

Originally posted by jinzin
this truley is past the point of ridiculous......now vador's precog is in question....

Even you should be aware of the THOUSANDS of times Spider-Mans spider-sense has saved his life. Or warned him for something in general. Or made him sneak in high security buildings. And so on and on...

Do you really want to make a list of all the true pre-cog "warnings" of both Vader and Spider-Man ?

Originally posted by who?-kid
Vader is (or better : was) a Jedi. Why can't I compare him with other Jedis ? Because he'll loose some of his shining, invincible aura ?

Ridiculously stupid comment and analogy, yes? yes. But so is you comparing other jedi's to spiderman...their jedis, not spiders.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Do you really want to make a list of all the true pre-cog "warnings" of both Vader and Spider-Man ?

Episode 1: Obi Wan senses that anakin is a useless being....well, tis true, because anakin just ended up going to the dark side.

Episode 2: Anakin and Obi wan both sense an INSECT about to assasinate padme, anakin runs in and slices the bug right off the front of her face.

Episode 3: Yoda senses order 66. Yoda senses jedi's dying. yoda senses Anakin turning to dark side. Anakin senses mace going to assassinate the chancellor. Mace senses anakin betraying them.

Now, don't say..."but he didnt know luke was his son, or obi wan thought anakin was good" This is because they aren't following their jedi insticts. A jedi must not allow emotion to cloud their vision of the force. Jedi denial if you will.

As far as you rebutting my previous posts, I can repeatedly say no he cant as well, i'm just not an idiot so I wont.

So now you can go ahead and make spiderman's list and we will see if it compares to these examples.

Originally posted by who?-kid
You're damn right it's in question. I know as much as any SW lover that he has pre-cog, but it's NOT that all-knowing, absolute extra sense some people want it to be.[/b

Originally posted by who?-kid
[B]Even you should be aware of the THOUSANDS of times Spider-Mans spider-sense has saved his life. Or warned him for something in general. Or made him sneak in high security buildings. And so on and on...

Originally posted by who?-kid
Do you really want to make a list of all the true pre-cog "warnings" of both Vader and Spider-Man ?

Vader's can do that as it is a true precog, he can actually see what's going to happen. Spiderman's is a tingling sensation.

Originally posted by sumbum
So now you can go ahead and make spiderman's list and we will see if it compares to these examples.

Okay... may take a while though... three months at least... have to read through 40 years of SM-comics...

😆

Originally posted by Creshosk
You mean like Spiderman's spidersense, telling spiderman where a teleporter is going to teleport to before they teleport, or how and where a person is going to attack before they attack? 😉

That is what his spider-sense does, warning him a split second before the actual attack begins.

Now, that was not so hard, was it ?

Originally posted by Creshosk
You mean like Spiderman's spidersense, telling spiderman where a teleporter is going to teleport to before they teleport, or how and where a person is going to attack before they attack? 😉

Case in point. 🙂

Spiderman doesn't have true precog. The portrayal of his knowing something is going to happen BEFORE it starts to happen is absurd.

Vader's can do that as it is a true precog, he can actually see what's going to happen. Spiderman's is a tingling sensation.

If spider-sense didn't start kicking in BEFORE something happened then it would be radar and not pre-cog at all.

You were right about him not being able to SEE in advance but the sense kicks in prior to danger, not as danger begins. I would imagine that it is not comparable to a jedis.

The levitation seems a very unavoidable obstacle and I'll say no more! 😄

Lord Vader's use of the force is all he could use that WOULD work.
Spiderman could dodge everything Vader throws at him,
and he'd wreak considerable damage on Vader with physical blows.
Vader would have to force choke him or levitate then suspend him immobile.
That's all that would realistically work against that pesky Spiderman...

Originally posted by The MISTER
If spider-sense didn't start kicking in BEFORE something happened then it would be radar and not pre-cog at all.

It's basically knowing something is going to happen. His spidersense counts as it lets him know he's going to be hit before he is hit.

Originally posted by The MISTER
You were right about him not being able to SEE in advance but the sense kicks in prior to danger, not as danger begins. I would imagine that it is not comparable to a jedis.

Originally posted by The MISTER
The levitation seems a very unavoidable obstacle and I'll say no more! 😄