he does things like punch through brick walls, crush car hoods, KO guys with super durability, etc etc. the regular cap thing really. plus i'd say he's stronger/tougher than bats(who is peakhuman), which is right around where i'd say cap is. on average i'd say cap is slighty stronger, but this guy's taken punches from the bat when he had metal spiked gloves on his hands, and came out with the obvious edge in the fight.
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Strength feats
Cap easily pushing the head of a soilder as it cracks the concrete.
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/9247/caf0603li3.jpg
Carrying a motorcycle.
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8095/adventuresofcaptainamerdb4.jpg
Cap is startled a bit and crushes a gun.
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2021/adventuresofcaptainamernj4.jpg
Easily breaking shackles.
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/2554/adventuresofcaptainamervc5.jpg
Breaking chains.
http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/3047/captainamericav48p11hgwra3.jpg
Easily bending jail bars.
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/4444/advofcaptainamerica416gg7.jpg
Again bending jail bars.
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9194/adventuresofcaptainamerqs8.jpg
Catching a thick Torpedo and hitting the other with shield.
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/3656/captainamerica37story2pqw5.jpg
Cap escaping from a huge snake with some aid.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9692/captainamericav330p11bl8.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4901/captainamericav330p12iz8.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2010/captainamericav330p13jn8.jpg
Cap holding off the Superhuman Cap.
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1802/captainamerica15605mm6.jpg
Cap holding off Maddog.
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/551/captainamerica41116cp1.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/751/captainamerica41117fa5.jpg
Cap holding the strong arms of Lady Octopus.
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=secretwar41314zh0.jpg
The Superhuman Berserk tilts a car over Cap, as we see later the car is upright.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7192/captainamerica24415tf6.jpg
Cap tearing metel off a tractor.
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5274/cap339pg18wz6.jpg
Cap pulling the arm off a robot.
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6751/captainamericavol31316fv4.jpg
Cap breaks out of a shield containment device.
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6906/captainamericavol31022rc6.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1537/captainamericavol31025sz5.jpg
Cap bend's the flap of a jet from the outside.
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6562/captainamericavol31019sv2.jpg
Cap pulling a supply truck through the desert.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2944/captainamericadmr2of303zm4.jpg
Cap makes a steel door buckle as you see it twised up as its on the ground.
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/189/camedusaeffect049td3.jpg
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/4290/camedusaeffect050mq6.jpg
Cap with the aid of his shield stops a falling elevator by applying it through the other side, as he applies enough force stops the elevator.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2904/captainamericav303315fm8.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2278/captainamericav303316un4.jpg
Cap manually closes the nuke launch doors.
http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol31222pg8.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol31223sq0.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol31224rb3.jpg
Cap keeps open the Gamma-core doors.
http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrironmanv200610rougherki0.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrironmanv200613rougherpp2.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrironmanv200616rougherqs1.jpg
Cap works out easily with 1100 lbs.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7048/captainamericav1402ocd0fr6.jpg
Cap lifts a big piece of debris off.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6935/ca01036zc1.jpg
Cap easily deflects a statue thats stated to weigh a Ton or more.
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6794/captainamerica256p13hi7.jpg
Cap tilts over a big heavy statue that he's chained up too.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8306/captainamericav305060aa0.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav305062ts1.jpg
Cap breaks out of cryogenic freezing, there was no space for levarage as we see even slight finger movements start breaking the thick ice.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4712/captainamerica444p22uk1.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1761/captainamerica44501id6.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1307/captainamerica44503zw3.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3151/captainamerica4450405al5.jpg
Cap picks up the massive Big Bertha.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2332/wca06420ny8.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3863/wca06421nj4.jpg
Cap tackles Ironman.
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/3263/ai04018si4.jpg
Cap tackles Namor.
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/262/captainamericav412p22hgaz2.jpg
Cap holds off Namor.
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav412p15hghy4.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav412p16hglq2.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav412p17hgth7.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav412p18hglj8.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav412p19hgwo0.jpg
Cap tackles down the big three Ironman, Giantman, and Thor.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2299/avengers00405yg6.jpg
Cap makes Thor/Ironman feel his strength as they are both holding Cap down.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7100/avengersv100903ve6.jpg
Cap holds up lots of debris and breaks out.
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8959/captainamerica36918gc4.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9294/captainamerica37001yd7.jpg
Cap holds up lots of falling concrete and steel.
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6338/captainamerica22817oh9.jpg
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/4535/captainamerica22902mv1.jpg
Cap holds up a good portion of a Skyscrapper.
http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol30924jh9.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol30925nh2.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol31003ml6.jpg
i hate to be the bad-guy when it comes to this. cap is a good character, but you have to draw the line somewhere. holding off namor(100+ tons)? tackling ironman(90 class). the rules clearly state that these kinds of things are not usuable here.
1. what class is captain america?2.captain america is still a street leveler right? not a mid teir or even a low meta?
3.explain to me just how bic C managed to accomplish those things after you accurately answer those questions.
Originally posted by namorsubby
i hate to be the bad-guy when it comes to this. cap is a good character, but you have to draw the line somewhere. holding off namor(100+ tons)? tackling ironman(90 class). the rules clearly state that these kinds of things are not usuable here.
Even if you see those feats as part of Cap's jobber aura, his other feats still surpass everything you listed Wildcat as doing. 😬
ps Batman has decked Wildcat before with suprising ease.
Originally posted by Warrior18
Even if you see those feats as part of Cap's jobber aura, his other feats still surpass everything you listed Wildcat as doing. 😬ps Batman has decked Wildcat before with suprising ease.
True, even is you ignore several of the highest feats from that list, most of the rest is still > Wildcat's feats.
well again, i don't want to be the bad guy here. so i'll try a different approach.
it is so very clear now from those scans that cap is definitely a marvel counterpart to batman. they're "high-end" showings are equaling.............i'll just say "amazing".
cap has 1 stalmate and 1 loss against batman. WC on the other hand had an obvious advantage when he fought bats. their fight was also much more brutal. they fought roman gladiator style with spiked metal gloves. the first fight cap had with bats in the marvel/dc crossover is the most compelling piece to this arguement. he did worse against batman h2h than wildcat even though he had his ultimate weapon of choice which he has mastered like no other could.there's no denying he's much more formiddable with that shield. batman never relinquished a weapon until the final scene of the fight where he took advantage of cap's distraction and nailed him with a batarang..........i think it's a little softer than him hitting him with a spiked metal glove though.
