Captain America vs. Wildcat

Originally posted by Silent Master
True, even is you ignore several of the highest feats from that list, most of the rest is still > Wildcat's feats.

Originally posted by Warrior18
Even if you see those feats as part of Cap's jobber aura, his other feats still surpass everything you listed Wildcat as doing. 😬

[b]ps Batman has decked Wildcat before with suprising ease. [/B]

i know for sure that there's at least one example of this. brave and the bold #118

Those aren't his high end showings, If I wanted to list those I start with him throwing his shield fast enough to catch an ICBM.

As for his crossover fights with Batman(which don't really count), one was fan voted and Cap had the advantage in the other two.

Originally posted by namorsubby
you know nothing besides what i've stated off the top of my head, so i doubt you're in a position to make such a statement.

Then start posting matching feats for Wildcat.

lol.i'm not going to start working to conjour up a crapload of feats when i know some guy will just sit back and pick apart every scene.trust me, i know.i'm big on posting scans. not so much so anyore though.

found a better approach. i've used a reference point, batman.

well again, i don't want to be the bad guy here. so i'll try a different approach.

it is so very clear now from those scans that cap is definitely a marvel counterpart to batman. they're "high-end" showings are equaling.............i'll just say "amazing".

cap has 1 stalmate and 1 loss against batman. WC on the other hand had an obvious advantage when he fought bats. their fight was also much more brutal. they fought roman gladiator style with spiked metal gloves. the first fight cap had with bats in the marvel/dc crossover is the most compelling piece to this arguement. he did worse against batman h2h than wildcat even though he had his ultimate weapon of choice which he has mastered like no other could.there's no denying he's much more formiddable with that shield. batman never relinquished a weapon until the final scene of the fight where he took advantage of cap's distraction and nailed him with a batarang..........i think it's a little softer than him hitting him with a spiked metal glove though.

IOW, You can't prove that Wildcat is on Cap's level.

just did..........and without slaving to impress you.address the quoted statement.

No, you didn't, proof would be showing matching or superior feats for Wildcat and that is something you refuse to do.

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol.i'm not going to start working to conjour up a crapload of feats when i know some guy will just sit back and pick apart every scene.trust me, i know.i'm big on posting scans. not so much so anyore though.

found a better approach. i've used a reference point, batman.

Wasn't one of the crossovers fan voted. Also Batman stated Cap would probably win if they straight up fought. Anyway we should not turn this into Cap v Batman.
Wildcat is physically outclassed by Cap in every way. Plus Cap is more skilled. Did Cap not learn an alien martial art in one day or something crazy like that?

Wasn't one of the crossovers fan voted. Also Batman stated Cap would probably win if they straight up fought. Anyway we should not turn this into Cap v Batman.
Wildcat is physically outclassed by Cap in every way. Plus Cap is more skilled. Did Cap not learn an alien martial art in one day or something crazy like that?

how can you make such a statement when all you know is what i have most generously provided for you? BTW, you weren't very appreciative either. when a man provides you data to base an argument on, you thank him.😂

the fact that batman said cap probably would've won in the jla/avengers thing only further helps my arguement. wildcat had the advantage just like cap did when they fought, but it was more obvious. cap's stamina was all that influenced batman to make such a claim. i believe batman said something like this to wildcat:

"you almost tore my head off with that last one"

FYI that >cap/bat confrontation

BTW guys, you don't have to fret. i did vote cap FTW you know😂

Originally posted by namorsubby
cap's stamina was all that influenced batman to make such a claim. i

Prove that.

they were evenly matched forever. batman stated that if it went on, cap probably wouldn't won. if it's not obvious to you that stamina is the issue here........i just don't know what to say to you.😂

The fight/test didn't last long enough for Batman to realize Cap has enhanced stamina, IOW you're just speculating on the reason.

The writer himself(Kurt) said that Batman was admitting Cap was more skilled.

This is downright frustrating. Namorsubby wants everybody to prove that Cap is better and when they do, he refuses to counter with anything comparable because people will pick it apart. Amazing. The best he comes up with is freaking crossovers in which the only time Batman won was when it was the fan voted mess. Also speaking of DC counterparts, Batman and Wildcat are peak human and can never achieve anything beyond that unless they gain some outside power source later in their careers. Cap has a super soldier serum. He is beyond peak human.

It really is that simple.

Originally posted by tkitna
This is downright frustrating. Namorsubby wants everybody to prove that Cap is better and when they do, he refuses to counter with anything comparable because people will pick it apart. Amazing. The best he comes up with is freaking crossovers in which the only time Batman won was when it was the fan voted mess. Also speaking of DC counterparts, Batman and Wildcat are peak human and can never achieve anything beyond that unless they gain some outside power source later in their careers. Cap has a super soldier serum. He is beyond peak human.

It really is that simple.

Precisely. I've given up debating this subject with him.

Originally posted by tkitna
This is downright frustrating. Namorsubby wants everybody to prove that Cap is better and when they do, he refuses to counter with anything comparable because people will pick it apart. Amazing. The best he comes up with is freaking crossovers in which the only time Batman won was when it was the fan voted mess. Also speaking of DC counterparts, Batman and Wildcat are peak human and can never achieve anything beyond that unless they gain some outside power source later in their careers. Cap has a super soldier serum. He is beyond peak human.

It really is that simple.

what in god's name have you guys been reading from me? if you try to throw some crap about cap competing with 90 class and 100 class guys the yeah of course i'm gonna shot it down. IT'S CALLED COMMON SENSE.what else besides those ridiculous showings does cap have on him? you guys expect to tell you everything you need to know about wildcat and provide scans while you're arguing against him and you don't even know ho is. the fact that there's several of you popping out posts right and left that don't exactly hit on the core off my argument doesn't help either FYI.

*sigh*........................forget it. anyway,stop whining, i voted cap FTW anyway. i was just trying to enlighten you guys on wildcat. lost causes evidently.

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CAPTAIN AMERICA IS PEAK HUMAN.IF HE'D WAS BEYOND THAT, HE BE SUPERHUMAN.

Originally posted by namorsubby
1. what class is captain america?

2.captain america is still a street leveler right? not a mid teir or even a low meta?

3.explain to me just how bic C managed to accomplish those things after you [b]accurately answer those questions. [/B]

Cap is a low Meta

Originally posted by namorsubby
i can't believe this. this is downright insufferable.

what in god's name have you guys been reading from me? if you try to throw some crap about cap competing with 90 class and 100 class guys the yeah of course i'm gonna shot it down. IT'S CALLED COMMON SENSE.what else besides those ridiculous showings does cap have on him? you guys expect to tell you everything you need to know about wildcat and provide scans while you're arguing against him and you don't even know ho is. the fact that there's several of you popping out posts right and left that don't exactly hit on the core off my argument doesn't help either FYI.

*sigh*........................forget it. anyway,stop whining, i voted cap FTW anyway. i was just trying to enlighten you guys on wildcat. lost causes evidently.

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[B]CAPTAIN AMERICA IS PEAK HUMAN.IF HE'D WAS BEYOND THAT, HE BE SUPERHUMAN. [/B]

Originally posted by godking
He is beyond peak human dummy . Cap has nigh unlimited stamina.

i don't understand how you can know of cap and not know that. being peak human is definitely what is most stressed when mentioning cap's power. check a bio, a comic, anywhere.

oh, and reported 😉

edit:

"Physical attributes enhanced to peak of human potential"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_america

Originally posted by godking
Cap is a low Meta

Originally posted by godking
He is beyond peak human dummy . Cap has nigh unlimited stamina.