World wars orchestrated

Started by Ushgarak4 pages

Odd, because one thing journalists almost never do is give an 'official' version. And you do blindly believe it. Sorry, but all your so-called 'evidence' does not stand up to the lightestr of rational tests. You just want to believe it so badly, you made all this unbelieveable crap real. An odd phenomenon, but all too common- you see it all the time in talk of UFOs, JFK and faked moon landings.

Originally posted by Deano
u believe the official version of events for 9/11...haha

I certainly believe that is many orders of magnitude more rational to believe than the childish babble you buy into.

You know, for someone who doesn't care what other people think... you seem to take it very badly when they don't agree with you.

Originally posted by Mandos
ridiculous...

of course it is...u have conditioned to believe otherwise..of course this is ridiculous to you...

Originally posted by Deano
basing that on what? you have probably not even looked into it...u dont understand..

like the war in iraq...all stems from bullshit and lies...a coldly manipulated plan carried out and everyone fell for it..even me at first...
but ive woke up now thankfully

I do understand. I use to be so deep in reading stuff about the occult, secret societies, NWO and basically is interesting stuff but not enough to back it up. I don't deny it, but I also can't take it as the ultimate truth. The war in Iraq is a constant traffic of reports and updates from all over the world. Yes I won't deny that reports get manipulated, but that doesn't mean I gonna keep thinking in my head that the government is fabricating stuff 24/7. That is just being paranoid and misinformed.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I certainly believe that is many orders of magnitude more rational to believe than the childish babble you buy into.

You know, for someone who doesn't care what other people think... you seem to take it very badly when they don't agree with you.

how did u come to that conclusion?
im not taking it badly
you are taking it badly
and you dont seem to care about what other people think

read about problem reaction solution
is it really that hard to believe? im being serious
do you believe the official verson of events that took place on 9/11?

I am sorry, Deano, but the links you give are all RUBBISH. Take the first one- implying the entire historical community by default believes in an 'accidental' view of history where:

"Events happen by accident; there do not seem to be any causes."

And

"Historical events occur by accident, for no apparent reason. Rulers are powerless to intervene"

And that the viable alternative to this is the Conspiratorial view.

Leaving aside the second point- which is simply not tenable anyway- the first... is TOTALLY removed from reality. How much more can I say other than to say it is NOT true? It is a simple lie. Historians think absolutely nothing of the sort. History is a very complicated set of interactions and causes and NOTHING happens by accident.

The premise is bullshit.

Originally posted by Deano
how did u come to that conclusion?
im not taking it badly
you are taking it badly
and you dont seem to care about what other people think

read about problem reaction solution
is it really that hard to believe? im being serious
do you believe the official verson of events that took place on 9/11?

I come to the conclusion easily- by reading your obviously (and amusingly) annoyed posts, when people don't agree with you!

Little wonder though- because it all bears no relation to rationality.

Originally posted by Mandos
ridiculous...

I wouldn't call it that! I would call it a huge "What if?"

Or this line:

"It is difficult for the casual observer to believe that World War 1 and World War 2 could not have been prevented, as humane people of conscience do not allow harmful events to occur."

Only difficult to a casual observer who knows nothing of a. history, b. politics and c. human beings!

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I come to the conclusion easily- by reading your obviously (and amusingly) annoyed posts, when people don't agree with you!

Little wonder though- because it all bears no relation to rationality.

im really not annoyed Ush
we all have out own beliefs

watch the alex jones videos that hh posted...DO IT!!
id like to see your reaction to it

I know another kid who is really into these conspiracy theories. He constantly talks about it and devotes most of his intellect and energy to learning about world conspiracies and illuminati.. it seems like the only people who buy this stuff are fanatics.. I don't see too many people who just casually believe in illuminati, they are usually really devoted to it.

im not devoted..and if u met me in real life i wudnt talk about it at all
i'll leave that to david icke

Well I wasn't saying you were in person cause I don't know you in person but just from these boards you seem pretty into it.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
I know another kid who is really into these conspiracy theories. He constantly talks about it and devotes most of his intellect and energy to learning about world conspiracies and illuminati.. it seems like the only people who buy this stuff are fanatics.. I don't see too many people who just casually believe in illuminati, they are usually really devoted to it.

Certain conspiracy theories do contain some valid arguments. There are such things as Secret society in the world. Their agendas are only known to them. But of course there are people who think their agendas are only driven by the desire of world domination. Thus fictional ideas are born.

well the internet can be boring sometimes...so i just read some more stuff on the nwo, microchipping etc
its all interesting to me and its all a real possibility imo
and i aint scared of posting it
id rather talk about this than go in the off topic forum and act silly

Originally posted by WindDancer
Certain conspiracy theories do contain some valid arguments. There are such things as Secret society in the world. Their agendas are only known to them. But of course there are people who think their agendas are only driven by the desire of world domination. Thus fictional ideas are born.

the 9/11 conspiracy has tons of valid arguments

Originally posted by WindDancer
Certain conspiracy theories do contain some valid arguments. There are such things as Secret society in the world. Their agendas are only known to them. But of course there are people who think their agendas are only driven by the desire of world domination. Thus fictional ideas are born.

it's also in the human nature to see things where there is nothing

Is a combination of human curiosity and a desire to search for something. Humans are full of questions...and yes is our nature to ask...

"to be fair, humanity does not have a great record for demanding the truth or searching for it. We have developed lazy minds. It’s appropriate that the word ignorance is an extension of the word ignore. We ignore so much and so we become ignore-ant. Once you have conditioned one generation to think in the way you require, it becomes even easier to condition the next generation. You now have the programmed parents working unknowingly on your behalf conditioning their children to accept their own conditioned view of life. Such parents don’t do this because they are bad people. They do it because they genuinely think their view is best for their children. But the effect is the same: one programmed generation helps to programme the next one because it does not respect anyone’s right to be themselves. Each generation has a right to see life in a way that makes sense to them, not their parents, their teachers, or the guy .reading the news.
But sadly, people accept without thinking so much that is passed down to them. They don’t ask the most liberating question it is possible to ask: Why? Why do we do it this way? "

both world wars were instigated by the Illuminati.

HItler was funded from wall street, Prescott Bush, Churchill, ROthschilds and other Illuminati families.