Final Fantasy VII - PS3 Technical Demo

Started by Kadesh7 pages

um they are not remaking it, several magazines and the director himself stated that the tech demo was to show the power of the ps3. They are NOT remaking ffvii. And by the way, officialy the japanese gaming magazine Famitsu declared that ffxii overtook ff7.
And do you think Square Enix will listen to fans? they dont like that

And logic would question us, how are they going to make a remake when they are already working on 3 different final fantasy titles?
Final Fantasy XIII Final Fantasy Versus XIII and Final fantasy Agito XIII

Who cares what Famitsu said? FFXII is a very good, though heavily flawed game.

agreed, but i still think Xis better, lets stay on topic anyways

Yeah, and a remake of VII is very possible, even likely. EGM even printed not long ago that they got word that the Tech Demo was indeed a prelude to an actual remake of VII.

Sony and Square would be stupid not to remake that game, it would be huge, people would buy the system just to play it.

We'll wait and see, though I'm expecting one at some point.

Um the director already said that the tech demo was to show the power of ps3, and he stated that he will not make a remake, several magazines pointed out that many fans thought that this would be a remake which it will not happen.

And again why would SE remake a game when they are working on 3 FF titles already?

And again SE will not listen to fans, The franchise is suppose to be fresh, that means new titles, not remakes of something we have already played, and what good is a remake? just voice acting and graphics.

Its the same as saying "O they should remake the original trilogy" when already it beats out the entire series, Its the same with FFVII, leave it as it is, its great its good.

And why bother to remake it when they are making a prequel to ff7? So thats 4 titles, not 3.

You know they don't have the same development teams working on all titles, right?

It's not unheard of for game directors to simply lie when they aren't prepared to announce something. Him saying "it's just a demo to show the power of the PS3" means nothing. He could very well just be saying that because he's not prepared to announce it, yet. Because if he says "I can't say if it will happen or not" people will see that as confirmation that it is going to happen.

Plus, they have been remaking FF games for new systems for years now. Go look at the GBA FF titles, all remakes.

Why bother to remake it? Simple, because it would sell like hell. Not rocket science here, it would make tons of money and would instantly become a PS3 system mover.

Originally posted by Kadesh
Um the director already said that the tech demo was to show the power of ps3, and he stated that he will not make a remake, several magazines pointed out that many fans thought that this would be a remake which it will not happen.

And again why would SE remake a game when they are working on 3 FF titles already?

And again SE will not listen to fans, The franchise is suppose to be fresh, that means new titles, not remakes of something we have already played, and what good is a remake? just voice acting and graphics.

Its the same as saying "O they should remake the original trilogy" when already it beats out the entire series, Its the same with FFVII, leave it as it is, its great its good.

And why bother to remake it when they are making a prequel to ff7? So thats 4 titles, not 3.

Will not listen to fans?

Then why does FFX-2 exist?

Originally posted by Lana
Will not listen to fans?

Then why does FFX-2 exist?

Because simply the directors knew that fans did not like the ending of ffx? And by the way ffx-2 is a disaster . And why bother to touch ffvii when its good enough?

By the way there is nothing to prove that the fans demanded FFX-2 and even if SE did listen, they did it because it would be a brand new story line, A remake is just only graphics and certein parts of gameplay, attempting to edit the story will result in a disaster, And if it was the fans who demanded ffx-2 and it turned out a disaster, dont you think that SE has learnt their lesson not to listen to the fans?

Originally posted by BackFire
You know they don't have the same development teams working on all titles, right?
Isnt all FFs under SE?

Originally posted by BackFire

It's not unheard of for game directors to simply lie when they aren't prepared to announce something. Him saying "it's just a demo to show the power of the PS3" means nothing. He could very well just be saying that because he's not prepared to announce it, yet. Because if he says "I can't say if it will happen or not" people will see that as confirmation that it is going to happen.

And can you prove he was lying? can you actually prove he is going to remake ff7? And when he himself said he will not remake the game?

Originally posted by BackFire

Plus, they have been remaking FF games for new systems for years now. Go look at the GBA FF titles, all remakes.
Thats GBA not console system games

Originally posted by BackFire

Why bother to remake it? Simple, because it would sell like hell. Not rocket science here, it would make tons of money and would instantly become a PS3 system mover.
And how sure of you it will "Sell like hell"? The only thing new in the remake would just be graphics and voice acting, the story still remains the same, And saying that doesnt change the fact that they are not remaking FFVII

i pulled this out from IGN, so looks like its been proven there is no remake

UPDATE: We received word as soon as our boys made it back that Square Enix wanted to make it clear that there will not be a Final Fantasy VII remake for PS3. Repeat, there will not be a remake

Isnt all FFs under SE?

Yep, but Square has many different teams working for them. For instance, FFXII, X-2, Kingdom Hearts 2 were all being worked on at the same time, along with presumably FFXIII since it's been confirmed that FFXIII has been in development for sometime. All of these games have different teams. Square is a huge company and has many many teams, it wouldn't be difficult to have a team reworking the graphics, music and voice acting to the game. Plus, who said that they had to be working on it at the same time as their current projects? Might work on it after. Who knows?

And can you prove he was lying? can you actually prove he is going to remake ff7? And when he himself said he will not remake the game?

Of course I can't prove he was lying. I don't have to prove shit since I'm merely saying the possibility exists. When I begin to say "Square WILL remake the game" come back with that crap. Until then, understand that I don't have to prove a possibility.

Thats GBA not console system games

Handhelds ARE consoles, hence why they're covered in magazines dedicated soley to console gaming.

And how sure of you it will "Sell like hell"? The only thing new in the remake would just be graphics and voice acting, the story still remains the same, And saying that doesnt change the fact that they are not remaking FFVII

I'm very sure. With the rabid fanbase that game has, are you really denying the sales this game would have? New graphics and voice acting is all it would take for some people. You really don't think this would be huge? Also keep in mind that the original is somewhat difficult to obtain now, so many people who may be new to gaming, or just never got a chance to play it would finally have that chance.

i pulled this out from IGN, so looks like its been proven there is no remake

UPDATE: We received word as soon as our boys made it back that Square Enix wanted to make it clear that there will not be a Final Fantasy VII remake for PS3. Repeat, there will not be a remake

And since you're making a claim as to what's factual, prove that this guy is telling the truth. Since you seem to think it's impossible that gamemakers can lie, despite the fact that they do it all the time.

A remake is just only graphics and certein parts of gameplay, attempting to edit the story will result in a disaster, And if it was the fans who demanded ffx-2 and it turned out a disaster, dont you think that SE has learnt their lesson not to listen to the fans?

This is just crap, FFVII is a great game, but the storytelling certainly has room for improvement.

FFX-2 was by no means a disaster, where are you getting this shit? It got very good reviews, sold very well, and was enjoyed by most who played it. The only people who thought it was a disaster are the morons who thought that it would be as good and as big as an all new numbered FF game.

Originally posted by BackFire

And since you're making a claim as to what's factual, prove that this guy is telling the truth. Since you seem to think it's impossible that gamemakers can lie, despite the fact that they do it all the time.

Great one, then i guess if they said they would remake ff7 i guess it can be a lie too by arguing by your logic

Originally posted by BackFire

FFX-2 was by no means a disaster, where are you getting this shit? It got very good reviews, sold very well, and was enjoyed by most who played it. The only people who thought it was a disaster are the morons who thought that it would be as good and as big as an all new numbered FF game.

Why dont you just accept the fact that they are not going to make a remake? that SE certeinly stated so, And again why would IGN lie, can you prove that? certeinly not, because there is no reason for IGN to lie

and yes ffx-2 was a dissapointment, it did not live up to its name. And enjoyed by those who played it? i dont think so, i have seen on so many forums that people arent happy with x-2 and some dispute it as the worse ps2 FF between X X-2 and XII. Certeinly i have played ffxi online and infact 95% of the 1.5 million people do not like it.

Unfortunately for Final Fantasy fans all over the world, Square Enix President Yoichi Wada stated after the demo's airing that it was meant for display purposes only and was not proof of an actual remake of the original game. need i say more?

w/e it is i am not going to bother to carry on for now, i got everything to prove that there will be no remake. Deny it if you wish

Hi, you don't know shit about the creation of FFX-2, it seems.

FFX-2 was created because of FFX being so wildly popular and fans wanting to know what happened next - not fans being unhappy with the ending. Thus when FFX International was released, FFX-2 was in production and there was an extra video included at the end of the game, "Another Story", which sets up the basis for FFX-2 and gives an excuse for it to exist (Yuna still holding out hope, Rikku becoming a sphere hunter, and Kimahri finding a sphere on Gagazet that contained someone who looked like Tidus).

And...as someone who loved FFX immensely, I would NOT say FFX-2 was a disappointment. It did not live up to FFX, but how often does a sequel ever do so? The main thing that caused FFX-2 to falter was the fact that they took so long to get the plot started, but in reality, the plot was very good and it was an entirely seperate game in it's own right. It was a silly and fun game, which quickly turned more serious once the plot began to surface, but in no way was it a BAD game, as you are claiming.

The fans wanted it, the fans got it, and most of the fans were happy with it.

Kadesh, gaming magazines and sites can only report what they've been told. Thus, as IGN said, they received word from Square Enix that there wouldn't be a remake. So no, IGN couldn't have lied about it, it's their job to report what they've been told. SE lied to IGN.

And why? Can you honestly not think of a reason for SE to lie about a remake? Here's a few:

FFVII is the single most popular game in the entire FF Series, and indeed likely the most popular game of ANY SE-created property. In the past couple of years, SE has acknowledged this by releasing 5 - count 'em, 5 - new projects based on the FFVII property. They know that FFVII is immensely popular, and they know that slapping the FFVII label on a product will sell that product.

Now, why lie about it? How about so that it turns out better? The longer they go without officially announcing the remake, the longer they have to work on it before they're under pressure of a deadline to release it. Now why is that good? Because generally the more time spent on a project, the better that project will be in the end. But if you announce a game right when you've started working on it, especially something as big as an enhanced FFVII, what do you get? Rabid fans begging for it to be done NOW, so they can play it NOW. Since SE lives or dies based on customers wanting to buy their stock, the company is compelled to work faster, but not necessarily better. Leading to a game not as long, or big, or good as they wanted it to be.

That is why SE would lie about such a remake. It's to save their own butts, and make their fans happier in the long run.

Hey, for all we know, SE wasn't lying with that statement. All they said is that it was not proof of a remake being made.

That does not equal a remake will NOT be made. Just that that particular video did not mean one was in the works.

Originally posted by Lana
Hi, you don't know shit about the creation of FFX-2, it seems.
There was a reason why SE stared the project. They didnt start because some one demanded the game, They themselves knew the ending was not good, do you think they are dumb enough not to know to know that? So that is why they did make a sequel, its like you said, because we want to know what happened next, remember tidus swimming after the credits in the ending? They put it there on purpose, there is a possibility that that paticular scene would lead to a sequal and points out to one thing, they had already intended a sequel long before the fans so called demand one

Originally posted by Lana

FFX-2 was created because of FFX being so wildly popular and fans wanting to know what happened next - not fans being unhappy with the ending. Thus when FFX International was released, FFX-2 was in production and there was an extra video included at the end of the game, "Another Story", which sets up the basis for FFX-2 and gives an excuse for it to exist (Yuna still holding out hope, Rikku becoming a sphere hunter, and Kimahri finding a sphere on Gagazet that contained someone who looked like Tidus).
Yes i do now that, but the reason why SE made it, is because it is a totally brand new story line which is a follow up of what happened and thus it gives SE a reason to make it. FFVII on the other hand is pointless, all they would be doing is remaking graphics, voice acting and updated music which is totally pointless. The so called "remake" which has already been proven to not be remade would just be a remake of what i had mentioned earlier

Originally posted by Lana

And...as someone who loved FFX immensely, I would NOT say FFX-2 was a disappointment. It did not live up to FFX, but how often does a sequel ever do so? The main thing that caused FFX-2 to falter was the fact that they took so long to get the plot started, but in reality, the plot was very good and it was an entirely seperate game in it's own right. It was a silly and fun game, which quickly turned more serious once the plot began to surface, but in no way was it a BAD game, as you are claiming.
Tell that to the thousands of people who did not like it, go check out igns readers reviews and you will see alot of flamers, go play FFXI and ask the other players opinion of ffx-2, go check all the gaming sites ratings of x-2 and frankly speaking, it isnt that great, only the cut scenes and story were. And i did forget to mention that i do like the story and cut scenes, what dissapointed us was gameplay, the lvling system this and that, The dress spheres were good, but what annoys me is the lvling system, unlike the previous FFX.

Originally posted by Lana

The fans wanted it, the fans got it, and most of the fans were happy with it.
I wanted it to, i admit i liked the scenes, but im not happy about the gameplay as i mentioned

If the ending of FFX was as bad as you claim, then why is it so well-liked?

i meant dissapointing. And does a bad ending mean the game is bad? no

I mean the ending. If it's as disappointing/bad as you say, then why was the ending so well-liked?

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Kadesh, gaming magazines and sites can only report what they've been told. Thus, as IGN said, they received word from Square Enix that there wouldn't be a remake. So no, IGN couldn't have lied about it, it's their job to report what they've been told. SE lied to IGN.
Can you prove that SE was lieing? prove up or shut up, show me a statement or quote where it states that there will be a remake, Accept it and move on

Originally posted by Kadesh

UPDATE: We received word as soon as our boys made it back that Square Enix wanted to make it clear that there will not be a Final Fantasy VII remake for PS3. Repeat, there will not be a remake

which part of this do you not understand?

Do you understand the termthere will not ? Compared to not in development

Originally posted by Kadesh
FFVII on the other hand is pointless, all they would be doing is remaking graphics, voice acting and updated music which is totally pointless. The so called "remake" which has already been proven to not be remade would just be a remake of what i had mentioned earlier

What's your point? FFVII lovers don't want the core mechanics of the game changed, beyond the possibility of some new dungeons or other bonus content added. Which, by the way, would be entirely possible, SE did that with all the FFI-VI GBA remakes. But the point is, people would buy such a remake BECAUSE it's the same game, but with new high-end graphics, real voice acting, and 7.1 surround sound music.

You want me to prove they aren't lying? I can't, elsewise it wouldn't be a very good lie. You already argued this with BF; I'm saying a remake is indeed possible, given what we know. You just have to use intelligence when thinking about the circumstances.

Originally posted by Lana
I mean the ending. If it's as disappointing/bad as you say, then why was the ending so well-liked?
Because it leaves us wandering what would happen next? And when i say dissapointing i refer to when tidus um vanished, that the main characte did not live, sorry if i forgot to make this clear