Originally posted by General KalieroThat was what i was saying,
What's your point? FFVII lovers don't want the core mechanics of the game changed, beyond the possibility of some new dungeons or other bonus content added. Which, by the way, would be entirely possible, SE did that with all the FFI-VI GBA remakes. But the point is, people would buy such a remake BECAUSE it's the same game, but with new high-end graphics, real voice acting, and 7.1 surround sound music.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Because it leaves us wandering what would happen next? And when i say dissapointing i refer to when tidus um vanished, that the main characte did not live, sorry if i forgot to make this clear
So in other words you were not happy with the fact that it wasn't a happy ending. Personally, I rather liked that a lot. It's not like FFX was a cheerful, happy-go-lucky game, it was in fact a rather serious game with a serious plot. A happy "everything is perfect" ending would simply have ruined the game.
And of course it leaves you wondering what happens next, but so does every other game ending, as they don't go through and detail out the next 10 years of the characters' lives.
Originally posted by Lanai just said it was dissapointing that he vanished, and i did not say i didnt like it,
So in other words you were not happy with the fact that it wasn't a happy ending. Personally, I rather liked that a lot. It's not like FFX was a cheerful, happy-go-lucky game, it was in fact a rather serious game with a serious plot. A happy "everything is perfect" ending would simply have ruined the game.And of course it leaves you wondering what happens next, but so does every other game ending, as they don't go through and detail out the next 10 years of the characters' lives.
But personally since you like unhappy endings, out of the 4 endings in x-2, which do you like? bad, sad,good or perfect?
Originally posted by General Kalieroi did not deny a possibility, and again you have not proven anything accept gave out your opinions on this matter and failing to prove why SE would lie
Don't double-post. And that's not what you were saying, you were vehemently defending a position that you can't hold by saying that there's NO WAY SE was remaking FFVII.
Originally posted by Kadesh
i just said it was dissapointing that he vanished, and i did not say i didnt like it,
And i completely agree with what you said "happy endings" spoil a movie. Thats what made TESB so awesome, bad endings.But personally since you like unhappy endings, out of the 4 endings in x-2, which do you like? bad, sad,good or perfect?
I didn't get the bad ending since you can only get that one by losing the final battle. And personally, I liked the sad one the best, where Yuna doesn't like Tidus. It doesn't ruin the ending of FFX at all.
Originally posted by Kadesh
i did not deny a possibility, and again you have not proven anything accept gave out [B]your opinions on this matter and failing to prove why SE would lie [/B]
Semantics. They're saying they won't, but what they mean is "not at this precise moment will we". Or they're simply saying they won't in case something falls through and makes it impossible. It's pretty much to cover their asses, and companies do it all the time.
Originally posted by LanaI didnt say the ffx ending was ruined...
I didn't get the bad ending since you can only get that one by losing the final battle. And personally, I liked the sad one the best, where Yuna doesn't like Tidus. It doesn't ruin the ending of FFX at all.
Originally posted by LanaThere is also the sentence they mentioned "they will not" do a remake at all, do you understand now?. And if SE were to lie about this, if they really do make a remake, wouldnt they get heavily criticised?
Semantics. They're saying they won't, but what they mean is "not at this precise moment will we". Or they're simply saying they won't in case something falls through and makes it impossible. It's pretty much to cover their asses, and companies do it all the time.
Again there is a possibility, but why bother when they are trying to make the franchise fresh again by working on 3 titles? the prequel to ff7, ffxiii and ff versus xiii
Originally posted by Kadesh
i did not deny a possibility, and again you have not proven anything accept gave out [B]your opinions on this matter and failing to prove why SE would lie [/B]
My opinions, sure, just the same as you've given your opinions. Welcome to the wonderful world of forums, where you are able to voice your opinion.
However, my opinions, opinions though they may be, are based upon things like marketing sensibilities, business tactics, and general common sense.
Your opinions seem to be based on the idea that game companies cannot possibly ever lie to anyone about anything - which I can assure you, is not true.
There is also the sentence they mentioned "they will not" do a remake. And if SE were to lie about this, if they really do make a remake, wouldnt they get heavily criticised?
They would not be criticized at all, because companies in all sorts of businesses do that sort of thing all the time.
Originally posted by Kadesh
I didnt say the ffx ending was ruined...There is also the sentence they mentioned "[B]they will not
" do a remake at all, do you understand now?. And if SE were to lie about this, if they really do make a remake, wouldnt they get heavily criticised?Again there is a possibility, but why bother when they are trying to make the franchise fresh again by working on 3 titles? the prequel to ff7, ffxiii and ff versus xiii [/B]
Show me where I said you did. I said that the perfect ending ruined the end of FFX. That's my opinion. I shouldn't have to place "in my opinion" at the end of every sentence.
And probably not. Fans want a remake, and if they make one after saying they won't, I really highly doubt anyone would criticize them for giving the fans what they want. And as said...companies say stuff like that all the time. It's covering their asses in case something happens.
Originally posted by General KalieroBut i did give you proof that they will not do a remake, You claimed they lied, which you failed to prove
My opinions, sure, just the same as you've given your opinions. Welcome to the wonderful world of forums, where you are able to voice your opinion.
Originally posted by General Kalierooh i see, but what i ask you now, do you actually have evidence that they are lieing? and if you had common sense, you know how expensive is it to make an FF title am i correct? it costed billions of yen to make XII and they are working on 4 FF titles, attemping to do another title could bring the risk of bankrupcy
However, my opinions, opinions though they may be, are based upon things like marketing sensibilities, business tactics, and general common sense.
Originally posted by LanaFFX or ffx-2? which ending
Show me where I said you did. I said that the perfect ending ruined the end of FFX. That's my opinion. I shouldn't have to place "in my opinion" at the end of every sentence.
Originally posted by LanaYes fans want a remake, but again is there anything to prove that they are making one? Just to let you know fans are wanting kotor3 which is the sequal to the best selling SW game and would make tons of money for the company but did they listen? No, they cancelled it and they are not making it either, What is there to prove that SE will remake FFVII
And probably not. Fans want a remake, and if they make one after saying they won't, I really highly doubt anyone would criticize them for giving the fans what they want. And as said...companies say stuff like that all the time. It's covering their asses in case something happens.
Originally posted by Kadesh
But i did give you proof that they will not do a remake, You claimed they lied, which you failed to prove
oh i see, but what i ask you now, do you actually have evidence that they are lieing? and if you had common sense, you know how expensive is it to make an FF title am i correct? it costed billions of yen to make XII and they are working on 4 FF titles, attemping to do another title could bring the risk of bankrupcy
SE will never go bankrupt with FF. It's one of the most popular game franchises. Hell, it's the franchise that saved Square from bankruptcy 20 something years ago.
Also keep exchange rates in mind when tossing around monetary values...and do you have a source for this 'billions of yen' claim?
Originally posted by Kadesh
FFX or ffx-2? which endingYes fans want a remake, but again is there anything to prove that they are making one? Just to let you know fans are wanting kotor3 which is the sequal to the best selling SW game and would make tons of money for the company but did they listen? No, they cancelled it and they are not making it either, What is there to prove that SE will remake FFVII
There's only one ending to FFX, figure it out yourself.
And KOTOR2 might have sold a lot, but it was a huge letdown. Not that KOTOR was anything hugely spectacular.
Originally posted by Lana
There's only one ending to FFX, figure it out yourself.And KOTOR2 might have sold a lot, but it was a huge letdown. Not that KOTOR was anything hugely spectacular.
if you were reffering to a ending which you would not like, you said the perfect ending ruined ffx, which apparantly is not, only X-2 has that sorta ending.
And kotor2 could have beaten the first game had they not cut out half the game. And nothing spectacular? it actually is if you pay attention to the story
Originally posted by Kadesh
But i did give you proof that they will not do a remake, You claimed they lied, which you failed to prove
oh i see, but what i ask you now, do you actually have evidence that they are lieing?
Billions of yen, right. A couple hundred yen is mere pocket change, you know.
What proof did you give? You gave a couple statements that could be either outright lies or slippery-worded skirting around actually giving a real answer. How about this: You give me absolute proof that SE is not making a remake, and has no plans to do so. Fly over to Japan with a camera and film every department of SE to show that they aren't working on a remake. That would be proof.
Originally posted by Kadesh
if you were reffering to a ending which you would not like, you said the perfect ending [B]ruined ffx, which apparantly is not, only X-2 has that sorta ending.And kotor2 could have beaten the first game had they not cut out half the game. And nothing spectacular? it actually is if you pay attention to the story [/B]
The perfect ending to FFX-2 ruined the end of FFX, in my opinion. There. I've spelled it out. Not that it was very hard to get.
I've played KOTOR and KOTOR2. The first was pretty good, the second bored me so much I quit a quarter of the way through. The plot was not that different from that of the first game.
Originally posted by Kadesh
did i say "a" million? no i did not ok?Developed from 2001 to 2006, Final Fantasy XII cost approximately 4 billion Japanese yen (about 35 million USD Heres your proof
Christ, you need everything spelled to the letter, don't you!
You said millions. I pointed out that a million yen is only about $10,000. How on earth does that mean I said you only said "a million"? It doesn't!
And where is your source for that claim? Random claims without sources to back them up can't be taken seriously.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
Billions of yen, right. A couple hundred yen is mere pocket change, you know.What proof did you give? You gave a couple statements that could be either outright lies or slippery-worded skirting around actually giving a real answer. How about this: You give me absolute proof that SE is not making a remake, and has no plans to do so. Fly over to Japan with a camera and film every department of SE to show that they aren't working on a remake. That would be proof.
here goes Unfortunately for Final Fantasy fans all over the world, Square Enix President Yoichi Wada stated after the demo's airing that it was meant for display purposes only and was not proof of an actual remake of the original game. Thats for not making one at the moment,
2)President of Square Enix, Yoichi Wada, was quick to point out that this wasn't a teaser, or a hint of any intention to do a remake of Final Fantasy VII, but explained that Final Fantasy titles were indeed guaranteed to come to PS3 one day. thats 2 no intention
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Originally posted by Kadesh
UPDATE: We received word as soon as our boys made it back that Square Enix wanted to make it clear that there will not be a Final Fantasy VII remake for PS3. Repeat, there will not be a remake
Now, prove to me that they are, prove up or shut up