Cinemaddiction
AmStar 14 Manager
Originally posted by Black Ice
#1, You say you don't care. I guess that answered my question.#2, Nothing to do w/ distribution. Have everything to do w/ the myopic and xenophobic culture of this country. See below:
#3, You say, "The roots of African American music is usually traced back to the blues, with which there is a difference." Totally agree. I know the difference between Blues and Jazz, fan of both, thank you. I did NOT say Jazz is THE black music. You are picking bone. When Jazz was first played, sorry to inform you, it was played by blacks only. It was considered lewd and uncivilized. It was "legitimized" by the racial majority, that was whites, when whites started playing Jazz. Now, that's a historic fact.
Back to #2 above using Jazz as example. In Europe, Jazz has long been celebrated ever since they first got a taste of it oh so long ago when it was only played by blacks. Jazz at that time was every bit foreign to them but they did not exhibit the same myopic and xenophobic attitude toward it as American whites did w/ anything foreign.
p.s., You say, "I think you should have boned up before presenting scenarios fishing for other people's input." I guess you were referring to the Jazz bit. Now I've shown you that I indeed have "boned up before presenting scenarios " (to use your words) can you play nice so we can have a meaningful discussion instead of personal attacks?
As for Tarantino, and his sources never being celebrated, that's because the true genius of his work is that he finds the diamonds in the rough, makes them his own, and throws it in a pot. The absolute worst films ever are the fabric of his films.
People xenophobia!?! You're off your ****ing rocker. You honestly think people have some fear of foreigners or foreign films? How about being creatures of habit, and the lack of exposure, resulting in subsequent overall disinterest? Nobody is "afraid", besides, plenty of Asian films have found mainstream distribution in the U.S. and enjoyed huge success, i.e. Iron Monkey, Hero, Crouching Tiger. U.S. isn't going to pull Asian action films over here, because the U.S. market is already too saturated with them as it is, regardless of how "good" the foreign counterpart is. And yes, distribution is an factor, because of what I had just said.
Inform me all you want, homeslice. You're the one being prissy and oh so "as a matter of fact"-ual with me. Not once did I insinuate that you DIDN'T know the difference, where as you did with me. I'm well aware that jazz is "black music". Regardless of the "legitimization", not one white jazz player has ever been more widely accepted or popular than Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Count Basie, or John Coltraine. How many times you ever hear Zoot Sims name come up in conversation? Was HE the "great white hope", the one white jazz musician that ushered in the great acceptance. I hardly think so. Times change, historical fact or not, jazz was big before white people took it up, regardless of who was listening to it.
Now, same goes for films. In Europe and most other countries, foreign movies are NOT such a hard sell. A good movie is a good movie. Nobody will be turned off simply b/c it's foreign. See my point?
I see your point, but I think you're still failing to consider the levels of exposure to mediums, the incredible difference in culture, and tons of other factors that seperate countries views when it comes to entertainment. You can't speak for anyone other than yourself, either. A good movie ISN'T always a good movie, and people CAN be turned off because it's foreign. It's you not accounting for personal tastes, and presenting opinion as fact. Bad move.
Play nice? Personal attacks? It's your apparent Anti-American stance, and penchant for controversy that have already angered people. I haven't done the first thing. To avoid conflict next time, maybe you should have shown what you knew as supporting facts, instead of leaving them out? You didn't have much to base your opinions/questions on until I called you out.