Football (Soccer)

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
How can he hit it straight and also have it bob and weave? I don't think you thought that through.

Even then, Almunia almost got it. It wasn't place in an area where the keeper couldn't have got to it.

The fact that he didn't just proves we need a new keeper.

It was a brilliant volley, but it wasn't Zidane territory. Zidane's against Leverkusen and Van Persie's against Charlton were two unstoppable volleys, regardless.

The more I watch it, the more I get annoyed with Almunia.

It's true what Andy Gray said; he'll never score a better goal and I'd be surprised if he goes anywhere with his career. He didn't do much besides that. It's just one of those really good goals in the right moment that'll get shown in Premiership Highlights.

-AC

I think your are being unfair to the keeper, there´s a saying that "a keeper lives and dies by his defence".

That certainly is the case here, if Rose was closed down instead of having time to hit the ball, the defender who stood in Almunia´s way as he came back was doing something like leaving the box (for offside reasons) instead of standing around, not to mention the freak nature of the balls trajectory & the fact that Alumia had just saved a shot while the defence just stood around maybe the goal would have been prevented.

I initially said the ball was like a bullet, only after seeing this slow motion can you see the ball dip and weave. The new balls are a nightmare for keepers.

If Cesc would have scored this goal you would be jumping with joy going on about how brilliant he is, just because it was Spurs your trying to play it down. Accept it for what it is, a brilliant goal.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
I think your are being unfair to the keeper, there´s a saying that "a keeper lives and dies by his defence".

That certainly is the case here, if Rose was closed down instead of having time to hit the ball, the defender who stood in Almunia´s way as he came back was doing something like leaving the box (for offside reasons) instead of standing around, not to mention the freak nature of the balls trajectory & the fact that Alumia had just saved a shot while the defence just stood around maybe the goal would have been prevented.

I initially said the ball was like a bullet, only after seeing this slow motion can you see the ball dip and weave. The new balls are a nightmare for keepers.

If Cesc would have scored this goal you would be jumping with joy going on about how brilliant he is, just because it was Spurs your trying to play it down. Accept it for what it is, a brilliant goal.

When did I say anything about it not being a brilliant goal?

Rose wasn't closed down because of the distance out that he hit it. There wasn't any need because at that point, it's a keeper's job not to get beat from that distance.

-AC

I have to agree with you Bicnarok, the goal was world class, by anyone's standards. To say that you're angry with Almunia for not saving it really disrespects the strike which the young gun made. Zidane would have been more than happy with it.

Anyone would have been happy with it because it was a brilliant goal.

Let me put it to you this way, then: would he have scored if that was Buffon, Cech, Julio Cesar, or Lloris?

-AC

I'd say so.

Well, you're wrong.

Almunia very nearly got to it and he was out of position. He's not even the best keeper in the league where as Buffon, Julio Cesar and Lloris are the world's best.

As good as the goal was, you cannot deny that it was one of those strikes that honestly could have gone anywhere, but didn't. The fact that it didn't is what's great, but for the goal to be world class, he would have to prove that it's a feat he is capable of replicating.

Zidane has scored wonder goal after wonder goal. When he scores a goal like that, you know that there's very nearly 0% hit-and-hope in it.

Danny Rose is someone you cannot say the same about.

This is what I hate about things like this. I agree it was a brilliant goal, but any negativity pointed at the situation, regardless of how true it is, will be waved off as bitterness or unfairness.

It's a fact that Almunia has had a terrible season and any better keeper would've tried to catch that.

Let's call the goal what it was, but let's not go overboard with it. The kid is already being plastered all over the papers as some prodigal genius, and who knew about him before hand? It wasn't like he was making a name for himself and people picked up on it like Kakuta or Wilshere. If he doesn't connect with that shot, we'd not be talking about him now. That's how you know this hype is unjustified.

It was a great goal, but lots of people have scored great goals and never been heard of again, because they're not that good and the goals they scored were a measure of good fortune more than consistent ability.

Messi will not be remembered for A goal, neither will Zidane or Pele. Danny Rose will, just like Corridon and Rene Higuita. They're remembered for doing one-off things that became legendary. Next season, when all of this is forgotten, who will be mentioning Danny Rose?

Unless the unlikely case occurs and he proves to be a very good player that has a great season, nobody will be talking about him.

Again, I think the goal was great, but let's not act like it was a gift from God.

If Messi did it, people wouldn't be going half as mad.

-AC

I don't think they would have saved it. And no one's treating it like it was the best goal of all time. No one is even talking about the goal anymore. (minus this conversation)

Originally posted by §P0oONY
I'd say so.

me too

Spurs go 2-1 against Chelski while United win 1-0 against City. That puts the mancs 1 point behind the Blues with Arsenal still creeping up behind (no pun intended).

Makes the League run much more interesting now in competition sense, I mean, I still don't care if either of those teams win it.

Before, I didn't really care about Arsenal losing to Tottenham. Now, it's haunting me. Arsenal would be level with points. God damnit.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
me too

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Buffon, Julio Cesar or Lloris would've caught the ball first so the save wouldn't have even had to be made.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Trolls aren't permitted to discuss.

Buffon, Julio Cesar or Lloris would've caught the ball first so the save wouldn't have even had to be made.

-AC

This proves you have never played football. 😆

Originally posted by Bicnarok
This proves you have never played football. 😆

Prove how me making that comment proves that I have never been part of a game of football.

Show me the link between the two.

Also, a truly shameful and disgraceful result from Arsenal. I could put it down to resignation at the title hopes are gone, but there's NO excuse for conceding three goals in 10 minutes. Terrible display, especially after being dominant.

-AC

arsenal bottle it again

can wenger really be so stubborn again in the market this august?

the rose goal was excellent. i dont think many keepers cuould of stopped that.

To "bottle" it proposes pressure.

There was no pressure. It was stupidity and dumb, inexcusable mistakes. Not pressure. We're still gonna be top three, still gonna be in the Champions' League.

-AC

Originally posted by Deano
arsenal bottle it again

can wenger really be so stubborn again in the market this august?

the rose goal was excellent. i dont think many keepers cuould of stopped that.

To be fair, the injury situation is beyond comprehension. Only Chelsea can buy two squads, well, until Man City get started.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
To "bottle" it proposes pressure.

There was no pressure. It was stupidity and dumb, inexcusable mistakes. Not pressure. We're still gonna be top three, still gonna be in the Champions' League.

-AC

More likely a "nothing to play for" scenario, 3rd looks quite set.

I´m getting to really like Gareth Bale, he could turn out to be a top player.

Magnicificant rally from Wigan, I was actually taken aback by the fire they played with.

I wastched the first 70 mins, then switched over becasue I figured the game was over.

Not that the result means anything to either club anyway. Arsenal's title hope was already pretty much dead and Wigan are pretty much were you'd expect them to be... with no real risk of sinking into relegation.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
I wastched the first 70 mins, then switched over becasue I figured the game was over.

Not that the result means anything to either club anyway. Arsenal's title hope was already pretty much dead and Wigan are pretty much were you'd expect them to be... with no real risk of sinking into relegation.

But if they had lost they might have sank, especially if the lower teams
fought like they did. I like teams with fire and passion 😉