Hiroshima and Nagasaki--justified?

Started by FeceMan4 pages

Hiroshima and Nagasaki--justified?

I think so; I'm writing an opinion essay on it right now. What do you all think about it?

(If you couldn't figure out what I'm talking about, it is the dropping of the atomic bombs on the two Japanese cities, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Duh.)

Considering the war against Japan and pretty much won I think dropping the bomb was a little over the top.

I think it was more of a curiosity to see what would happen and to scare the sh*t outta of the rest of the world than it was to defeat Japan.

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there are many arguments with regard to this issue

many believe that it was justified by saying that the only alternative was full invasion which would have resulted in vastly more casualties than the dropping of the bomb

they say this was due to the japanese mentality of no surrender

others say that the japanese were on the verge of surrender even without the dropping of the bomb

i think the only justification for me is that the world has seen the horror of these weapons while they were at their weakest and has seemed to have learned not to use them again...without their use at that point in history i believe they would have been used in ignorance much later and with much deadlier consequences

i think a much more controvertial aspect in ww2 was the bombing of Dresden...

Some of the Emperors henchmen would have killed him to overrule his surrender! Other than that though I'm uncertain.

I agree Jaden.

In my opinion, no.

I'll bet all of you can guess what my stance on this one is 🙂.

The atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima for one reason, and one reason only.... so that America, the bastion of capitalism, could say to Russia, that terrifying commy nation, "Look what we can do..." The japanese were ready to surrender anyway... unfortunately, the Russian observers were not in place at the time of the Hiroshima bomb, so the second was dropped on nagasaki.... despite japanese overtures for peace..... the original plan was, allegedly, to let the Russians get very close to Berlin, then drop the bomb on Germany's capital, and say "oops! Didn't realsie your men were so near..." but luckily the western powers realised the futility of provoking the Red Army... if this sounds far fetched, remember that before the war boithe Britain and America were looking towards Nazi Germany as a protector of Europe against communism, and several prominent people during the war in America and Britain (Roosevelt, Truman, Churchill, Montgomery, patton, Eisenhower among others) stated that it should always be rtemembered that Communism and therefore Russia was the true enemy....

it's not at all justified, Japan was already almost on its knees and Russia already was in war with them too at that point.
Without the bombs, they would have perhaps faught a week or two more but that's the real maximum

There really is no justification for murdering that many innocent civilians, however Jaden's point is a very good one.

Imagine if they hadn't dropped the bombs. The potential for a world wide nuclear war would increase dramatically. Too many countries have them now and without that warning of what they can do, I doubt we'd be here now.

Last year I saw an exhibition about the tragedy. It showed clips of the test explosions, photos of the aftermath, and items recovered from the blasts.

I left there a whole lot more sceptical about the survival of the human race...

if a country these days drops a nuke on another, that country will retalliate with two nukes etc.
so, no one will start that cause they know they'll get it back

the only one you have to fear that'll use it are terrorists not commies or anything

Originally posted by yerssot
it's not at all justified, Japan was already almost on its knees and Russia already was in war with them too at that point.
Without the bombs, they would have perhaps faught a week or two more but that's the real maximum

Actually, Russia did not declare war on the Japanese until August 8, two days after the bombing of Hiroshima.
The atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima for one reason, and one reason only.... so that America, the bastion of capitalism, could say to Russia, that terrifying commy nation, "Look what we can do..." The japanese were ready to surrender anyway...

I disagree. I think that Truman was not focusing so much on, "Haha, take that, you dirty Commies!" but on a few other things.

1. The number of American troops that would be lost in an amphibious invasion--some denounce it, citing figures of ~30,000, while others say it would be more along the lines of 500,000.

2. The best way to force the Japanese to surrender was uncertain--frightening them into an unconditional surrender was extremely risky and improbable.

3. Was the atomic bomb that much different from fire bombing, a tactic already used throughout the war?

4. Unconditional surrender called for the dethronement of Emperor Hirohito, which did not go over well with the Japanese.

5. Looking back, one can say, "They were only going to be fighting for a few more weeks!"--called the hindsight bias--but perhaps it was not that clear-cut to Truman or his advisers.

Also, I have been reading about this, and I had to LMAO at some ultra-liberal website that stated how, even if the United States had not gotten involved in WWII (at all), the Germans would have had to contend with the Red Army and would have been defeated by them.

my mistake 🙂 I switched the dates

the only one you have to fear that'll use it are terrorists not commies or anything

Aren't they one in the same...?

(Oooh, I'm naughty! Somebody send me out to sea! *Makes foghorn noises while pumping his arm.*)

you'll get spanked for that... by Tex 😐

Originally posted by yerssot
you'll get spanked for that... by Tex 😐

I'll probably get spanked for that by KidRock, too, but in a way that makes me uncomfortable versus in pain.

Anyhow...

Anyone else have anything to add to this?

Capt? Backfire? LB? Adam? debbiejo?

*Sighs.*

Jackie?

😂
you must be desperate

Originally posted by yerssot
😂
you must be desperate

Hell, yes. I just ate Starburst and chocolate, so my system is energized with glucose and caffeine! Haha--sugar is to me what Earth's yellow sun is to Superman!

Nah I don't think it was the most reasonable way to end the war, just the easiest. I think it definitely had something to do with showing off our firepower to the rest of the world.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Nah I don't think it was the most reasonable way to end the war, just the easiest. I think it definitely had something to do with showing off our firepower to the rest of the world.

This was before e-peenery became popular. 😉

What Happened in Horoshima and Nagasaki can NEVER be justified, they killed millions of innocents. There was no need for the bambs to be droped, the war with Japan was basically over and even the war its self seemed to be eding, it was just a bunch of curupt polotitians playing with fire!