the best jedi

Started by DarkYoda4 pages

moviejunkie23... you have convinced me that there cannot be a best. They are all best in different ways. It depends on what you as a person think is most important in a Jedi. Me... I think it is endurance... and Yoda wins that competition I think. Of course Anakin sure had to endure some painful moments. Obi-Wan too. Qui-Gon... not really. Windu... not really. Luke... not as much.

your very right yoda.
its all about what you PERCIEVE to be the best jedi
They are all the best in these catagories
Anikin- potential
Mace-Combat
Qui Gon- in tune with the force
Obi Wan- his witts (in my opinion is his best strenghth)
Luke- accomplishments and accelerated learning ability
Yoda- for long standing jedi prowess 😉

This is all true but as it turns out Qui-gon ends up being by far the most important Jedi ever.... he finds a secret that's been sought after for millenia, he sticks to the true way of the Jedi, and does not allow himself to become corrupt and political like the others do. Above all, he becomes YODA'S MASTER.

It's this way:

Mace is almost singlehandedly responsible for the rise of Palpatine (read my previous post). He's so responsible for Anakin's turn he can't even be considered for the title of best Jedi. As strong as he is in combat, in other areas he is so lacking that any points he gains for combat are completely canceled out.

Yoda and Obi-wan are both apprentices of Qui-gon.

Thusly when it comes to overall best Jedi, (and also remember that the most important trait of a Jedi is to follow the will of the force, just like in our society the most important trait of say a priest or whatever is to follow the will of God) Qui-gon hands down wins out.

EDIT - additionally, Luke, however powerful he may be in the EU, is absolutely demolished by Palpatine. No, he's worse than demolished. There isn't a word for how badly he loses.

i would like to read your post if you want to link it 😉

here you go

When Anakin, struggling with his own feelings but doing the "right thing" anyways, tells Windu that Palpatine is a Sith, if Mace had just showed comradery for ONCE in his life to Anakin, given that they are BROTHERS in a very real sense, Anakin would have felt important, felt cared about, felt like he was being treated like an adult instead of a five year old, and helped Windu annihalate Sidious and ended 20 years of oppression before it began. As bad as the council in general treated Anakin (not all of it unjustified but by no means justified either), Mace was by far the worst. That's reason enough he's not the best Jedi

oh i agree one hundred percent.

yay lol 😄

Best - Yoda.

He had a part in the training of every Jedi.
He trained Luke for the most part. Teaching him how to focus his concentration, fear, patience etc. Jedi uses for defence never attack.
Wisest out of all Jedi's
Powerful out of all Jedi's(Stalemated the emperor)]

And i agree, Mace is the worst.

mace was too headstrong

yeah, mace was too headstrong but i still had to include him in the pool cuz he's a jedi. he is the best in combat.
and i never knew qui gon was the master of yoda. yoda is 800yrs old!
i still dunno who to vote for. if anakin didn't turn bad then i would've voted for him.
qui gon died to fast!

i love Obi Wan!

Qui-Gon trains Yoda and Obi-Wan during the 20 year interim between 3 and 4

train them?, but how. he's dead. was he using the force? or something

Train them in the same way Obi-Wan talks to Luke in ESB and ROTJ. At the end of ROTS, when Yoda is meditating on Bail's ship, Qui-Gon contacts him and informs him he is still "alive" through the force, and that he will train Yoda and Obi-Wan in these matters (as well, we assume, in becoming more in-tune with the force as Qui-Gon himself was so as that they may be free of the errors that allowed Anakin's turn and the rise od the Sith).

There was supposed to be more to the scene, as we were supposed to hear Qui-Gon's voice and Yoda's in a conversation, but we do not because Liam Neeson would not participate for whatever reason. In any case, we are provided with sufficient dialogue to ascertain the truth when Yoda tells Obi-Wan "training I have for you.... learned the secret to imoortality an old friend has," and Obi-Wan says, "Qui-Gon!"

"Obi-wan kenobi, Obi-wan".

thanks for the info lazerlike42. that helped.
did anakin looked up to qui gon? i thought its was obi wan

Obi-Wan Kenoni!!!

Originally posted by Ben-Kenobi
Obi-Wan Kenoni!!!
Kenoni? 😛

ok ppl. i'm with obi-wan. i saw the film 2day and he kicked anakin's ASS!
i would've voted for anakin but 1)he turned to the darkside
2)he killed the younglings, 3)he killed PADME, 4)he killed windu and last obi kicked his ass!.
see obi's last hit?, it chopped off his hand and 2 legs!
the movie was great! but it wasn't as sad as i thought