Sidious killed Darth Plagius?

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Sidious killed Darth Plagius?

Anyone notice, the scene in the theater when Palpatine is telling Anakin the sith story, about how Plageious can stop ppl from dying, he then goes onto say his pupil killed him while he sleeps and then sort of grins, so I assume he killed his master?

yeah that's definitely the impression given.... I think there was actually a confirmation of this. It may have come from EU thought I am not sure. It's around here somewhere...

indeed

yeah, definitely looked like he killed him. Still don't think Palps really knows how to control midichlorians though.

but if he did shouldnt he know how to keep someone alive? Yet he says he and vader can learn it together.

I think that was just a trick to keep Anakin at bay. Remember, Palpatine tells Yoda Anakin could kill both of them. If he makes Anakin feel like they need to find the secret TOGETHER, it gives him a way to keep himself safe. In fact, he could be correcting Plagiues' mistake. Plagiues probably just gave away all the info like Palpatine said, and seeing as he himself took advantage of this error he is probably safeguarding himself from it.

ah interesting theory but I think he might not really knowand thats one reason he would allow a person more powerful than himself to live so he could increase his chance to learn the ability.

Read the official novel. When Anakin finds out Palpy is Sidious, he asks about the "Sith Legend" and Palpy confirms that he killed Plagius.

oh ok then guess thats settled, so then he lied about not knowing how to keep ppl alive?

definetly. He really made it sound like he knew how to do it...then he says the "we can find out together". I'd have been like 'hold up, you DON'T know how to do this? And I turned to the dark side for something I possibly could have figured out on my own?'

Originally posted by mephistodesigns
definetly. He really made it sound like he knew how to do it...then he says the "we can find out together". I'd have been like 'hold up, you DON'T know how to do this? And I turned to the dark side for something I possibly could have figured out on my own?'

lol yeah, how exaclty would you go about learning something like that anyway?

Originally posted by Hegemon875
lol yeah, how exaclty would you go about learning something like that anyway?
Plagueis had to learn it somehow.
I just HAD to post in this thread! I am also not conviced that it WASN'T Plagueis who orchestrated Anakins conception.

wow i never thought about that. But why?

Midichlorians are brought up for almost no reason in Episode 1 in relation to Anakins high count. Then mentioned again in episode 3 when Palpatine tells Anakin that Darth Plagueis could even influence the midichlorians to create life. This seems extremely suggestive to me.

Originally posted by Darth Plagueis
Midichlorians are brought up for almost no reason in Episode 1 in relation to Anakins high count. Then mentioned again in episode 3 when Palpatine tells Anakin that Darth Plagueis could even influence the midichlorians to create life. This seems extremely suggestive to me.

Stumbled upon something you have.

yes, maybe mentioned in TPM so that when we heard Palps "lie" in ROTS, we'd know what he was lying about... I don't know why Lucas through this in there, it only confuses fans and gives us more to debate about. Maybe he'll clarify on the DVD Commentary.

Midiclhorians were brought up in Episode one as a really bad way to show that Anakin was incredibly powerful, not as an intended link to this scene in Episode 3. They are brought up in 3 again because they are an established premise that fits into the current situation.

queeg argued in another thread that Plagueis couldn't have done it because he died too long ago....but that makes no sense because we have NO IDEA when Sidious killed his master. From my point of view, about 10 years prior to episode 1 (Around the time of Anakins miracle birth) seems right, because then Sidious would have sought out an apprentice, and would have been training Darth Maul for the 10 years leading up to episode 1.

no I meant why concieve or arrange conception of anakin.

If there is any book that I would love to read right now, it would be how Palpatine became a Sith apprentice and eventually a Master. Damn that would be a good read right now.