(though all this has already been said Ill say it again) Yoda showed simply Sidious did not have power over the force enough to overcome him with Force power.....Yoda showed he could take all he had and Easily throw it right back at him...Mace showed Sidious could not beat his Saber skills.....any other guessing of "I think he was toying with him to trick Anakin" is just plain imagination and guessing as far as Im concerned...The movie showed nothing of Sids even anywhere near hinting that he was playing with either Mace or Yoda when fighting...though he did kick everyone elses azz....hes bad mofo no doubt ...what he wasted 3 jedi in like 10 seconds....but he could not do that to Mace or Yoda....you sith lovers make me wanna drink...lol
Re: Palpetine clearly inferior in skill and power to Yoda & Mace
Originally posted by SithKiller
Palpetine was pwned by Mace in Episode III in Saber Skills.... The novel kinda made it seem like he possibly might have been toying with mace?....Not so!... The movie clearly shows that Mace and Vapaad were superior....if anything Mace held back a bit...Yoda proved that his power in the last scene of their fight was superior to Palps ...although his light little green butt was knocked for a loop...he did absorb all Palps power and appeared to EASILY reverse it....Yes different surroundings he would have defeated palps no prob...ill leave it for discussion and debate from Sith lovers from here...lol....
I agree. After reading the various boards I got the feeling Palpy was going to be invincible. After seeing him in action I was less than convinced. The Sith lovers among us, the 'various truths they cling to', well Yoda and Palps looked like they duked out a stalemate to me. I got a feeling Yoda retreated because he felt destiny was against him rather than anything 'hard as nails' Sids had to offer. More plausable however was Palps faking defeat to Mace. I say 'plausable' as opposed to undeniable. I still don't know for sure. I think this thing can only be cleared up by a pronouncement from the Bearded One.
Originally posted by jackstain
wow.....lazerlike ur in denial....yoda lost.
no matter how u look at it. he even says, and i quote, "failed, i have."
he admits defeat, now u shuld too.
So Sidious didnt try and run away uh? Oh wait ... He did ... Yoda stopped Sidious from running away like a little pussy Sidious is. Almost everyone here thinks Sidious is some God because he got control of the Republic and turned in into the Empire. I will give the man props for manipulating the Jedi, Senate, and almost everyone else in Starwars but just because he did manipulating everyone doesnt mean he is a better swordsman or that he is better with the force then Yoda.
Originally posted by Darth Plagueis
Ani cut his hand off, after which Mace was still alive. Sids blasted his ass with major megawattage, after which he was toast. Darth Sisious killed Mace Windu.
Then yes. Sidious killed a one-armed, saberless Mace. Way to validate the "Greatest Force User EV4R!!" claims.
"In all the posts here, as well as in similar threads, ALL of you seem to have forgotten that Sids fought BOTH Mace and Yoda in a relatively short amount of time!!!!! Talk about frikkin' endurance!!!!!!! AND ends up triumphant!!"
And in that same time period, Anakin took out mace's arm, massacred the Jedi temple, trekked to mustafar, killed off the heads of the separatist movement, choked his wife, got the crap beat out of him by obi-wan, and burned into oblivion. *That* is endurance.