Padme Dies?!! Problem here...

Started by finti6 pages

semi EU though cause in the Novelisation of Return it says that Owen Lars was Obi Wans brother...........

That is because in the original script it says that Obi-wan is Lars' brother. The novelezation is based on the script which is given to the author a loooong time before the movie is finished. What comes in the movie takes precedent over what comes in the script when they contradict.

Originally posted by bilb
Well Thank God someone started this thread! Lord knows that in the last 20 years none of US have ever pondered this one.. 🙄

I started it, and I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.

That is because in the original script it says that Obi-wan is Lars' brother. The novelezation is based on the script which is given to the author a loooong time before the movie is finished. What comes in the movie takes precedent over what comes in the script when they contradict.
well in the case of Owen being Obi Wans broher this matter wasn`t delt with before AOTC.
I used this as an example of how Lucas disregards info from the novelisatios of the films.
To discuss Star Wars I only uses the info provided in the films casue they are 100% cannon stuff.
On the other hand if one should regard the novelisations as well then acording to the ROTJ novel Leia and Padme spend some time together

idk according to official policy novelizations are canon, but I would say they are only where they don't contradict the films. Since it now contradicts ROTS, it's canon no more. (I don't think ROTS disagrees with ROTJ as long as you realize it's not memories Leia talks about but feelings)

idk according to official policy novelizations are canon, but I would say they are only where they don't contradict the films
indeed I should have used semi canon instead of semi EU, or maybe they are both.something inbetween it all

(I don't think ROTS disagrees with ROTJ as long as you realize it's not memories Leia talks about but feelings)
yeah but for small kids their memories from the time they were kids (around 3 years, thats when memories really start to stick as memories) aint nothing but feeling and images when they are grown up. What I say is that George intentional plot about Padmes death has changed from what idea he had about ROTJ till ROTS

Did anyone notiice there was little a little girl at Padmes funeral right behind her casket. I have thought about this many a time and this could be Leia hence she was with her mother for little time eg. Padme didnt acutually die straight away

nah it is her sisters kid, you see her in deleted scenes in AOTC, and how would you explain the later scenes on Alderaan of Bail and his wife with Leia as a little baby again

As soon as I came out of the cimema I complained about that.

lol ok its just kind of confusing

Originally posted by Eddy Urquia
Wrongo!! She was spaekin of Bail Organa's wife, the lady u saw him land and give him the child. That is the lady she is refering to. she does not know who luke is refering to because she does not know yet they are related and that he is her brother. So, he knows of his Aunt, but Luke is questioning her parents who brought her up in hopes that she was brought up by their real mother Padme. But she does not know anything more than Mrs Bail organa. her name is Princess Lea organa! she only knows the sadness of THAT women, a sadness that I enterpret to be Mrs Bail Organas knowledge of Padme's death and the rise of the Empire. That is her mothers sadness. luke asked in hopes she would describe their real mother, and in hope that perhaps Lea would say she was stil alive! Hopes Padme would be alive!

WRONGO
This question was specifically asked on the OS "ask the Jedi Council". The answer was that Leia was referring to her REAL MOTHER.

Originally posted by Eddy Urquia
Force my arse!!1 she [Lea} speaks of what she knows, Mrs bail Organa. That is it! Luke asks in hope of that she would know her alive or dead. Lea says yes , my mother was ad and so on, because it is Mrs bail Organa who is sad because she is aware of the tragedy which occured with Lea's mother(padme force pinch death) and the rise of Empire fall of democracy. that her mothers sadness. Lea tells of this. luke hopes she spaeks of original momPadme . but it is not so, she speaks of Mrs bail Organa. WHY WOULD LUCAS JUST EXPLAIN THIS IN ROTS11111LOL HELOO, MCFLY...HELLO!

That is one of the most ridiculous, made up things I've ever read.

Originally posted by Lazerlike42
You are resorting to subterfuge now.... the force provided Leia with images and feelings of her mother in the same way it provided Anakin with images of Padme's death, and Luke with images of his friends and feelings of their pain on Bespin, and so on....

Then why can't Luke, who's apparantly much stronger in the Force than his sister Leia (spelled L-E-I-A), have those same images of his mother?

Originally posted by adele2k5
actually luke asks Leia about her natural mother he says do you remember your natural mother. Leia has a strong bond with pad me in the force as they both female just like luke and anakin have a strong connection

You're making that up. Since when is the Force sexist?

Originally posted by JediMasterRetro
Did anyone notiice there was little a little girl at Padmes funeral right behind her casket. I have thought about this many a time and this could be Leia hence she was with her mother for little time eg. Padme didnt acutually die straight away

You're joking, right?
Where do people get this stuff?

That was her niece! Check the credits!

Originally posted by Delta51VE
You're joking, right?
Where do people get this stuff?

That was her niece! Check the credits!

Sorry it was just a thought you know theres a lot to take in and you really need to see 3 or 4 times to see everything