Yoda versus Revan

Originally posted by Darth Mantis
Here let's put it this way.... Does revan have a better mastery of the force? no... Is revan a better duelist than yoda? no... Basic but it gets the job done...

Here let's put it in ACTUAL perspective. Better mastery of the Force? Revan or possibly a tie. Yoda's good but Revan was strong enough to control the Star Forge fully which every other Sith couldn't do (Malak couldn't do it nearly as well). He resisted the dark side temptations of Malachor V when EVERY other Jedi turned to the dark side, even Kreia.

More knowledge? Revan by far. He learned everything about the Jedi and Sith in a golden age with many wars.

Better duelist? Revan. He crushed everyone he faced with ease, learned hundreds of ways to kill or turn Jedi, found many many Jedi and Sith artifacts and relics (including Tulak Hord's holocron). He defeated Malak, he regenerated his power and Revan beat him again without resting. AFTER that he got far stronger.

Stronger Will? Revan by far. His will is legendary and no one can match it really.

Potential? Tie probably. As a padawan, Revan's teachers knew he would become a champion of the Force, Kreia said he was power and staring at him was like staring into the heart of the Force. Yoda had more midi-chlorians than anyone of 900 years until Anakin.

Combat experience? Revan by far. He is a military genius, perhaps the greatest ever. He alone could easily swing the tide of almost any battle. Mandalorians were defeating Republic, Revan leads Republic then the Mandalorians lose. Revan turns on Republic as leader of Sith and defeats Republic. Revan turns (Sorta) back to Republic side and defeats the Sith. Then he goes to fight the Sith single-handedly. Yoda lived in a millenia of peace save for the clone wars which were only 3 years. And he was on the Council so he didn't get out much.

Powerful Opponents defeated? Revan. He defeated the Dark lord of the Sith twice, his apprentice, the best bounty hunter in the galaxy at the time, Mandalore, the strongest Echani, every Jedi or Sith he ever fought (which is in the hundreds, maybe thousands). He defeats two Jedi masters same time with ease. In the original KOTOR 2 ending he was also going to defeat the Exile who defeated Kreia. Yoda was winning Dooku and was winning against Sidious. Wow. Anakin had Dooku at his mercy and Mace had Sidious at his mercy.

Yoda's freakin powerful but Lord Revan is in a class of his own...

Hella straight. Plus,CHARNAME has the load button. Sorry, couldn't resist. Anyway, not everyone turned to the dark side. Bao-Dur didn't, neither did Exile IIRC.

Revan, I see it like this.

Revan>Exile>Jedi Council of Kotor>Jedi Council of Ep.I-III

No need to worry about a fight, Dip. Everything's cool. But when I come down, it's like a bag of rocks. Ask Revan33. He and I go back and forth in an almost cutthroat manner, and we're still totally cool (Right? lol) so I'm not out to bash Mantis in any way. The heat of the argument tends to sway my mind.

But still... Mantis is the major nay sayer here and he has no proof or even a method by which to prove his own views. It would be like me coming on here and saying "Darth Bandon beats all!" Why? :Cuz he's cool and hella fast and has a goatee and I saw him in a movie!" Any real reasons? "And he could take Anakin cuz he has a bald head and mastery of the Force itself over Skywalker and his lightsaber is brighter than the sun"

As my old English 132 teacher used to say... Prove up!

I hate typing alot so here I go... I do not feel that revan is that good of a duelist compared to yoda.. Even though Revan fought many sith and jedi through out his life, he has never fought an opponent with such control and accuracy... Yoda was toe to toe with Darth Sidious, I do not feel that revan could stand up to a force like sidious like how yoda did... I feel that revan knows much more about the force than yoda, but yoda would find out how to counter every move revan makes... Since revan never fought an enemy like yoda it might even throw him off guard if this was a real duel... Yoda is very agile and fast, I don't think Revan could stand up to him.... I respect everyone's opinion but I think Yoda would take this one...

Fair enough. Thank you for indulging me. And I like the Nihilus avvie. Nice to see something different amidst the sea of KMC Jedi and Sith.

Yoda -was- toe to toe with Sidious. I'm still not sure why the hell he lost (Probably because he HAd to for contuinity's sake) but Sidious is a lesser Sith lord than Revan. He certainly turned out to be less badass than the book and everyone else thought. And while Yoda is an unconventional enemy, and he has a few advantages on his side, I doubt Revan is unfamilar with Yoda's kind. Why? Well, Master Vandar was head of the Council. He was the Yoda of the Old Republic days. Doubtless he fought in a similar manner, because both are small and need to draw upon the Force itselfto make saber combat even worthwhile. It is a possibility that Revan sparred with or took lessons from Vandar as Yoda taught saber skills to the Jedi of his era.

I do like the Nihilus avatar and thank you for bringing actual points to the table.

I'll still have to disagree, however. I think that Revan could defeat Sidious and I already gave my reasons why long, long ago in a thread I'm sure you read. You were around for it. Yoda could counter Revan well enough but I think that Revan is just as good, if not better, as Yoda. If base skill doesn't suffice, Revan has that special combat precog that would really give him an edge; everything/nearly everything Yoda does will be revealed to Revan through the Force ahead of time. Like I said, I think Yoda will give Revan a hell of a fight, but he'd eventually succumb.

Don't take anything I ever say as disrespective of your opinion; the only time I'd ever do that is if you said something as to make me lose respect for you yourself, which would have to be something horrible. Let's not forget this is for fun here.

go read Yoda's true power for my imput.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
No need to worry about a fight, Dip. Everything's cool. But when I come down, it's like a bag of rocks. Ask Revan33. He and I go back and forth in an almost cutthroat manner, and we're still totally cool (Right? lol)

It's true. We go back and forth for a long time. I'm probably going to get Carpal Tunnel from all the typing, lol. Yeah we're definitely totally cool, it would be too boring around here without someone to argue with and it would suck not seeing your hilarious pics anymore. Darth_Janus rocks. 🤘 😎

I knew it... I rock! lol... thanks, man. You all rock. We have fun despite all seeing different colors when describing an apple. It rules.

The apple is blue I tell you!

Green, dammit. Green!

Blue! Blue! Blue! Blue! Blue!

That does it... I'll show you green!

Donkey balls...

Anyways Revan would win for reasons already stated

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Green, dammit. Green!

It's yellow! Have you gone senile old man?

lol, j/k

I am not senile!

...Where am I?

In the morgue now stay down

Originally posted by Darth Mantis
Name one jedi during the reign of Revan that could beat Yoda?

Jedi? Yoda was one of the more poerful Jedi ever. There was no Jedi who could take on Yoda during that time. But there was Sith.

Yoda the most powerful ever? Seriously doubt that, he was incredibly powerful however...

But Jedi that could beat him? There might be a few, depending entirely on the location actually. Because i'm not sure if one of them can beat them with force powers, unless of course you count Revan as a Jedi.