naga sadow
Well, there is no record of naga sadow EVER dieing, so therefore he never did, i have read over 75 histories on this subject and all of them say naga won the fight, then took a fleet against the republic his fleet was destroyed and retreated into a trap on yavin 4, it says nothing else about that encounter until it says he came back to train Freedon Nadd this information came from very reliable sources, and i have studied this since before the first knights game came out.
Originally posted by Dark Aristokrat
Well, a few things...First off, Naga Sadow killed any enemies he had with a poisoned blade, not a lightsaber. None of the Korriban Sith other than Tulak lived in a time when the Sith had adopted the lightsaber. Still, Naga Sadow was the leader of a Sith priesthood, and the Sith themselves were strong enough in the Force to impress dark Jedi like Ajunta Pall. Notice the early dark Jedi didn't destroy the Sith but instead assimilated and interbred with them. Sith blood has, to use a modern era example, all the midi-chlorians of Anakin Skywalker and none of the fat.
Now, while Exar Kun was doubtless bursting with power and skill, he simply wasn't as experienced in the dark side or Sith magics as Sadow. His choice of weapon wouldn't be a tremendous advantage either since Ludo Kressh himself used a double bladed sword.
And lastly, no matter who wins, that planet is fekked up.
OMG... who is this noob? Arguing KOTOR items like they're canon?
While I concede the point about Kun being exceptionally powerful and deadly with a lightsaber, Sadow did have a lot of time to sit around and practice Sith magics and force mastery. Not to mention he's probably got more trinkets and toys than anyone in the series. I'd actually be surprised if Nadd really did kill him, since it would be an interesting plot element to see him come back and raise hell before the thousand year darkness or whatever.
True, but then there's the prodigy vs. experience theme in Star Wars. But besides, I was speaking more along the lines of the arguments used in the thread rather than the outcome, which I believe to be up in the air.
But I think Sadow was gone for good after Nadd left, whether he was killed by him is up for speculation.
Agreed. I don't think Nadd was tuff enuff to pwn Sadow, who at that point had to be damn near ancient and with nothing better to do but practice Sith alchemy and magic. Perhaps the old bastard died of natural causes and Nadd took over.
That does bring up a powerful point though- Naga Sadow, after living all that time and- perhaps- honing his skills and mastery, didn't make the galaxy-wide tremor in the force when he died as Marka Ragnos did.
Assuming what I've said above is accurate (Which, to the best of my knowledge it is), that's a large power discrepancy.
The hints point to no trembling of the force for Naga Sadow's passing. Really, I would have liked to see Naga use his sword more often, but it really seems like the comics try to portray him as an individual who rarely ever bothers with dirtying himself with fighting others on a personal level. All of his moves usually involve schemes that use underlings.
You've just virtually sucked off Exar Kun in the past 3 threads..
Ad hominem, logical fallacy.
My rankings make logical sense if you ask anybody..
Appeal to majority, logical fallacy.
The first 4 are of the ancient sith Empire so that's already no contest
Unsupported. You have to prove it, not just state your conclusion. If I were a movie fanboy I could easily reply with "zOMG PT JEDI ARE FROM TEH GOLDEN AGE OF THE JEDI! PT > ALL!!!111!"
then you have Freedon Nadd who controlled Kun as a spirit
Then you have Freedon Nadd who controlled Exar Kun as a Jedi knight before he had ever embraced the Dark Side and was instantly destroyed by Kun moments after he turned. Good one.
Imagine what he would do to him as a body.
By that logic Kun would lord over baby Ragnos. And it proves nothing.
how does that logic prove that kun would own Ragnos?
What I was doing was a parody of your logic. You cite Nadd's ability to lord over Kun (disregarding the fact that Kun was nowhere near the peak of his power and that he hadn't yet embraced the Dark Side) and so I replied with your logic applied to a different case.
This shows the absurdity of your logic.
Have you also forgotten that it took Sadow's amulet to destroy the spirit of Nadd?
Actually, you can't prove that it took Sadow's amulet to take him down. While it is true that the amulet was used to destroy him, there's no proof that Kun required it.