Skywalkers, the strongest blood line to the Force?
Through everything I've ever read, seen, and played, I belive that the Skywalker bloodline is the strongest known to the Force. Think about it Luke Skywalker was trained in the Force for only a short time (perhaps a week or two-correct me if I'm wrong) and was able to defeat Darth Vader, The strongest Sith Lord to ever live.
I'm so glad people like this have all the facts before they make an "informed opinion".
Refer to my long spiel on the NJo LUke Mace Obi Anakin Yoda and God versus Revan, Wimpy Maul, already pwned Sidious, and crappy Grievious thread. It should dispel that illusion right quick. Either that or heavily enforce your position. Either way, I hath spoken.
well if anikan hadnt been cut down by obi wan, he would have become the most powerful jedi ever to live. sidious states himself that vader would have become more powerful then he or yoda, who were probably the most powerful force users in the movies. but since vader was defeated and became mechanical he lost a lot of his power and int anywhere near the most powerful. but id have to agree and say the skywalker bloodline is the strongest. luke became a knight in a very short period of time and anakin was born through the force so theyd have to be the most powerful family. btw does anyone know lukes midichlorian count? im courious to see if its above or below vader's, i know its never said in the movies, but EU perhaps?
Originally posted by Human Vader
well if anikan hadnt been cut down by obi wan, he would have become the most powerful jedi ever to live. sidious states himself that vader would have become more powerful then he or yoda, who were probably the most powerful force users in the movies. but since vader was defeated and became mechanical he lost a lot of his power and int anywhere near the most powerful. but id have to agree and say the skywalker bloodline is the strongest. luke became a knight in a very short period of time and anakin was born through the force so theyd have to be the most powerful family. btw does anyone know lukes midichlorian count? im courious to see if its above or below vader's, i know its never said in the movies, but EU perhaps?
Phew...
Anakin had the -potential- to become one of the strongest Force users of all time. It's like saying the child of Einstein had the potential to solve E=MC squared, but then he was kicked by a horse and now can't remember his own name. In any case, he wasn't anywhere near the level of Sith or most major Jedi before his time (Since this is a forum where we consider EU as something to include, not just something to add to our movie biased viewpoints...) In any case, Anakin didn't even defeat Obi Wan or Sidious in ROTS, so he obviously had a long way to go.
Luke becoming a knight is hilarious. Luke isn't qualified to be a Jedi padawan let alone a Jedi knight. The Jedi order died with Yoda and Obi-Wan. Those few exiles who remained hiding in the shadows were not Jedi any longer, and Luke Skywalker basically built his own order from scratch, which I find absolutely unreal but whatever. Point is, it's like NATO dissolving and then some new country that barely qualified for membership in the organisation comes along and ressurects the organisation, qualifying itself for any position it wants. It's not prestige if you made the title up. And besides, you can't say Luke by ROTJ (A few months or years training, as everyone rabidly goes on about) was a full fledged Jedi Knight! TPM Obi-Wan was more capable than him. AOTC Anakin, a padawan, fought better and had better control of the Force than him. Luke hadn't even used the Force before the end of ANH consciously. If you think Luke's speed training crash course makes him a padawan or even more, a knight... you're crazy. And he may be a master in this NJO, but only because he is the most experienced Jedi in his timeperiod... not because he's so damn powerful compared to all who come before him.
And the Skywalker bloodline isn't the strongest in the Force. For one, Shmi was a slave with no special talents. Annie's spiritual conception may make him exceptional, but it doesn't make him AND all his progeny with a woman of no Force sensitivity even potentially on the same scale as him or above.
And in any case, NJO Luke is starting to become the new Vader/Anakin in this forum since ROTS came out. I guess Anakin wasn't the god everyone built him up to be.
Originally posted by DoleMace had Vaapad and Shatterpoint working for him, and he still barely managed to defeat Sidious. Yoda may have been his rough equal (slight edge to Palps imo) but my God... It's friggin' Yoda. No low showings to be had there.
For senator palpatine, he was defetat by mace windu, and almost by yoda but yoda was unlucky and fell off.
As for the 5 year old question at hand: The Skywalker bloodline seems to be the strongest, by far.
still the 3 jedies are died in 3 sec, and Mace fought palpatine alone and defeat him, and if you watch the scene where yoda and palapatine are holding the lightnigh you will se the strugle of palpatine. Skywalker line is the strongest just because of Anakin, Luke wasnt that strong he was just strong as an ordinary Jedi. Anakin probably let him go because he couldnt kill his own son. And if you watch the movie anakin was the choosen one (he did destroyed the sith by killing palpatine), but when Padme died he lost his will for power and he wasnt becomming more powerful as he supposed to become
Eaven George Lucas said that Anakin was chosen one and he created the story, he did eventualy destroyed the Sith, Luke just made him "look". Luke was never good as Obi wan or any Jedi worth to speak of and remember that Obi wan was weaker then Yoda, Mace, Palpatin and Anakin (he beat him because of higher ground), maybe Luke could become one of the greatest Jedies, but in the movie he was just ordinary jedi.
Asking if Anakin reached his potential is definitly not what the thread was asking. As far as potential goes, Anakin was THE epitome of it. Luke, according to Lucas shares that potential. Where is the contradiction? What Luke did in the movies only shows something like the first couple years of his training. Hardly enough for someone to write him off.
How good do you think Sidious was in his first 3 years of training?
Originally posted by Janus Marius
Phew...Anakin had the -potential- to become one of the strongest Force users of all time. It's like saying the child of Einstein had the potential to solve E=MC squared, but then he was kicked by a horse and now can't remember his own name. In any case, he wasn't anywhere near the level of Sith or most major Jedi before his time (Since this is a forum where we consider EU as something to include, not just something to add to our movie biased viewpoints...) In any case, Anakin didn't even defeat Obi Wan or Sidious in ROTS, so he obviously had a long way to go.
Luke becoming a knight is hilarious. Luke isn't qualified to be a Jedi padawan let alone a Jedi knight. The Jedi order died with Yoda and Obi-Wan. Those few exiles who remained hiding in the shadows were not Jedi any longer, and Luke Skywalker basically built his own order from scratch, which I find absolutely unreal but whatever. Point is, it's like NATO dissolving and then some new country that barely qualified for membership in the organisation comes along and ressurects the organisation, qualifying itself for any position it wants. It's not prestige if you made the title up. And besides, you can't say Luke by ROTJ (A few months or years training, as everyone rabidly goes on about) was a full fledged Jedi Knight! TPM Obi-Wan was more capable than him. AOTC Anakin, a padawan, fought better and had better control of the Force than him. Luke hadn't even used the Force before the end of ANH consciously. If you think Luke's speed training crash course makes him a padawan or even more, a knight... you're crazy. And he may be a master in this NJO, but only because he is the most experienced Jedi in his timeperiod... not because he's so damn powerful compared to all who come before him.
And the Skywalker bloodline isn't the strongest in the Force. For one, Shmi was a slave with no special talents. Annie's spiritual conception may make him exceptional, but it doesn't make him AND all his progeny with a woman of no Force sensitivity even potentially on the same scale as him or above.
And in any case, NJO Luke is starting to become the new Vader/Anakin in this forum since ROTS came out. I guess Anakin wasn't the god everyone built him up to be.
Are you the love child of Darth Traya? You talk just like Traya from KOTOR II when she refers to the Exile/Hiding Jedi and the Jedi of the past Order. You also sound like the Ancient Jedi Order.
Don't diss people because they are different bro. just roll with it.
Originally posted by MasterAshenVor... the f*ck?
Are you the love child of Darth Traya? You talk just like Traya from KOTOR II when she refers to the Exile/Hiding Jedi and the Jedi of the past Order. You also sound like the Ancient Jedi Order.
Why are you lecturing the five year old post of a member who no longer comes here?