Skywalkers, the strongest blood line to the Force?

Started by Q993 pages

And aside from Anakin and Luke, you have Caedus, a seriously powerful Sith Lord, Jaina, able to fight with him, Cade, able to *raise the dead*, and Kol... well, we don't know much about Kol other than he seemed to lead the council and took down 7 sith with him when he died.

Lesse, what other dynasties of force users are there to compare... well, the Hetts were very good, Sharad was a legend and Krayt was massively powerful, but I don't think that's quite Skywalker level. Marek never had the chance to extend into a bloodline. Hm, the Horns were quite powerful, but limited in some areas (bad at TK).

lol

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
... the f*ck?

Why are you lecturing the five year old post of a member who no longer comes here?

Because it's fun 🙂

I don't really intend to argue this (though I suppose I could if I had to), but I think the idea that having the last name Skywalker means you'll be some sort of cosmic Force-wielding badass is just down-right retarded.

First off, the idea that either Luke or Leia's potential comes close to Anakin's is preposterous. Canon dictates that Anakin was a once-in-a-million-years vergence of the Force that had a universal effect; his affinity for the Force is inextricably linked to his status as the Chosen One; the idea that any descendent is his peer in terms of Force potential pisses all over that.

Second, the idea that Leia's potential is equal to Luke's is also stupid for similar reasons.

Originally posted by Gideon

Second, the idea that Leia's potential is equal to Luke's is also stupid for similar reasons.

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Yoda did consider her another possibility for the job if Luke fell, right in the movie. She didn't reach her potential, but it had to be well up there.

Originally posted by Q99
Yoda did consider her another possibility for the job if Luke fell, right in the movie. She didn't reach her potential, but it had to be well up there.
Actually, he was talking about Pink Five.

Originally posted by Gideon
First off, the idea that either Luke or Leia's potential comes close to Anakin's is preposterous. Canon dictates that Anakin was a once-in-a-million-years vergence of the Force that had a universal effect; his affinity for the Force is inextricably linked to his status as the Chosen One; the idea that any descendent is his peer in terms of Force potential pisses all over that.

Agreed. I have seen people claim Jacen and even Cade Skywalker have potentials that are equal to that of Anakin. It's bullshit. ANd is of course impossible to tell. All we know is that Luke's has the potential to surpass Palpatine (confirmed by GL in an interview). But no where has he stated he has an equal potential to Anakin.

Second, the idea that Leia's potential is equal to Luke's is also stupid for similar reasons.

It was confirmed in The Shadows of Mindor that they have equal potential.

Later Skywalkers aren't going to have quite as much, but they do have a heck of a lot and stand apart from just about everyone else.

The strongest Force dynasty is obviously Bane, by himself, transferring his power and awesomeness down through Zannah and Cognus and everyone to Plagueis, culminating in him assuming the identity of Palpatine and Darth Sidious, which is clearly where the character we think of as Sidious learned his essence transference technique.

IT'S ALL IN DYNASTY OF EVIL, MAN - READ IT!!!

Spoiler:
Karpyshyn confirmed on his website that Bane died in his attempt to possess Zannah.

Sorry. 😐

Damn you, Gideon. That's where I got the idea from. His spoiler page.

Hearing "damn you" reminds me of my childhood....

*cue early '90s flashback sequence*

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I wish I could follow your train of thought, sweet prince.

Originally posted by Enyalus
The strongest Force dynasty is obviously Bane, by himself, transferring his power and awesomeness down through Zannah and Cognus and everyone to Plagueis, culminating in him assuming the identity of Palpatine and Darth Sidious, which is clearly where the character we think of as Sidious learned his essence transference technique.

IT'S ALL IN DYNASTY OF EVIL, MAN - READ IT!!!


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Originally posted by Gideon
I don't really intend to argue this (though I suppose I could if I had to), but I think the idea that having the last name Skywalker means you'll be some sort of cosmic Force-wielding badass is just down-right retarded.

First off, the idea that either Luke or Leia's potential comes close to Anakin's is preposterous. Canon dictates that Anakin was a once-in-a-million-years vergence of the Force that had a universal effect; his affinity for the Force is inextricably linked to his status as the Chosen One; the idea that any descendent is his peer in terms of Force potential pisses all over that.

George Lucas has stated that Luke has the same Force potential as his father, which is why both Darth Vader and the Emperor were willing to turn on each other to gain Luke as their apprentice. Luke is said to represent Anakin's full potential, if Anakin had lived to achieve it rather than suffer the horrible fate that made him more machine than man. Lucas also mentions that Luke's Force potential was even more powerful than Emperor Palpatine's.
-Taken from Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back Director's Commentary

'nuff said.

Originally posted by SWFan4Life
George Lucas has stated that Luke has the same Force potential as his father

Direct quote please.

Originally posted by ares834
Direct quote please.

As far as I know, it's only on video - not in a directly quotable text.

ROTS DVD extra's, right?

Originally posted by truejedi
ROTS DVD extra's, right?

Originally posted by SWFan4Life
-Taken from Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back Director's Commentary
Originally posted by ares834
Direct quote please.

As mentioned in the post above, it is only on video. But I will tell you exactly which scene. Go out and buy the Empire Strikes Back DVD and play it with audio commentary by George Lucas, Irvin Kushner, etc.

In the duel between Vader and Luke on Cloud City, right after Vader directs Luke to fall into the carbon freeze chamber, the audio commentary has George Lucas saying,

"At this point, Vader's plan, now that he knows Luke is his son, is to convince him to come with him and join the dark side, and together they're going to overthrow the Emperor, which is the thematic device used through the whole movies, in terms of Sith, which is if you have Sith Lords, there's usually no more than two, because if there's three, then two of them will gang up on one of them, and try to become the dominant Sith. Anakin would have been able to do it, if he hadn't been debilitated, and now he's half-machine and half-man, so he's lost alot of the power of the Force, and lost a lot of visibility to be more powerful than the Emperor. But Luke has it, Luke is Vader's hope."

Additionally, another quote from George Lucas:

"Anakin wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that."

This is from the Rolling Stones magazine interview of GL, i believe.

If you still can't choose to accept it, go ahead and email GL to be sure.