Cobra Unit Vs X-men

Originally posted by leonheartmm
the hell with this, counter ur points, HUH, ur the one whose laughable, comparing beast to the strength of volgin, ARE U ****IN CRAZY, BEAST COULD NEVER DO ANYTHING VOLGIN IS CAPABLE OF, ITS A WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL OF POWER, DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT KINDA FORCE AN RPG7 DIRECTLY IMPACTING{WITH HEAT WARHEAD} MAKES, NO OFCOURSE NOT, HOW WOULD U, WELL LETS JUST SAY THAT IT MAKES JENERAL CLASS 100 STRENGTH LOOK PATHETIC, THAT RPG 7 DIDNT EVEN MAKE A ****IN DENT ON THE SHAGOHOD'S ARMOUR, AND VOLGIN "PUNCHED RIGHT THROUGH IT, JUST LIKE THAT, LETS NOT ALSO FORGET THE FACT THAT VOLGIN HAS 10 MILLION VOLTS OF ELECTRICITY RUNNING THROUGHOUT HIS BODY, AND ARE U ****IN CRAZY CALLIN THE FEAR A SIMPLE DOUBLE JOINTED HUMAN? HES MORE AGILE THAN ANY HUMAN CAN DREAM OF, HAVE U EVEN PLAYED THE BLOODY GAME? AND THE THING WITH BOSS BEING LOWER THAN WOLVERINE IS AN ASSUMPTION AND WITH POOR BACKING EVIDENCE, JUST CAUSE WOLVIE IS OVER 100 YEARS OLD DOESNT MEAN SHIT, SHANG CHI IS NOT EVEN FORTY AND HE WOULD HAND WOLVIE, CAP AND BLACK PANTHER THEIR ASSES SIMULTANEUOSLY, JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT AGE DONT MEAN SHIT, U THINK A SIMPLE OPTIC BLAST WILL TAKE OUT THE FURY, WELL THAS TRUE, IT COULD, BUT HIS FLAME THROWER COULD JUST AS EASILY TAKE DOWN CYCLOPS AND ARCHANGEL{DONT FORGET HIS JETPACKS AND THE RANGE OF HIS FLAME{NOT THAT UD KNOW, I DONT THINK UVE PLAYED THE GAME} AND DONT U EVEN REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE FURY DIED? HIS ****IN SOUL TURNED INTO HELL FLAMES AND CAME AFTER SNAKE, WHO ONLY NARROWLY ESCAPED BECAUSE OF THE SCENARIO, I DONT THINK CYCLOPS OR ARCHANGEL COULD GET AWAY IF THEY WERE IN THE OPEN, BEAST WOULD DEFINATELY BE TOAST, STORM COULD DO SOME DAMAGE BUT THE END COULD TAKE HER OUT IF GIVEN NOUGH DISTANCE, AND THE END DEFINATELY HAS MORE STAMINA THAN WOLVIE, IF HE HAS MORE STAMINA THAN SNAKE, AND HE CAN ALSO REPLENISH HIS LIFE FROM PHOTOSYNTHESIS{NOT JUST HIS STAMINA}, N BTW I WAS THE ONE THAT ARGUED THAT CABLE COULD EAT STARS " AT HIS FULL ****IN POTENTIAL" BECAUSE IT WAS STATED IN THE GOD DAMN COMICS, I DIDNT MAKE THAT UP, BT I "NEVER" SAID THAT CABLE COULD DESTROY A ****IN GALAXY, JUST SHOWS HOW LOW PEOPLE LIKE U CAN GET WHEN TRYIN TO PUT DOWN PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO ACUALLY BACK UP THEIR CLAIMS WITH LOGIC,
WOLVERINE WILL GET HIS ASS HANDED TO HIM BY BOSS OR BY THE SUPERHOT ROKET FUEL FLAMES OF THE FURY'S FLAME THROWER, NOW AS I SAID BEFORE JEAN IS TOO POWERFUL FOR "ANY" OF THESE COBRAS TO HANDLE, BUT IF U PUT IN THE SORROW, I THOUGHT THAT HE COULD EASILY TAKE HER AN ANY ONE ELSE, NOW I ADMIT I "DONT" KNOW ANYTHIN ABOUT JEAN BEING THE ****IN FORCE THAT CREATED THE ****IN ABSTRACTS, N FRANKLY I DONT HAVE A LOT OF PROOF FROM PEOPLE TO BACK THAT UP, EITHER MARVEL HAS LOST ITS ****IN HEAD OR ITS ALL BULLSHIT, AND IM NOT EVEN SHURE HOW MUCH HYPE, MANIPULATED FACTS AND FAKE FABRICATED STATEMENTS ARE INVOLVED IN THIS WHOLE JEAN IS SECOND ONLY TO TOAA BULLSHIT, IF ITS TRUE THAN I TAKE BACK WHAT I SAID ABOUT SORROW BEING ABLE TO DEFEAT JEAN GREY, BUT SINCE I DONT KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT ITS TRUE, ILL HOLD MY JUDGEMENT FOR LATER.

Volgin is Class 100? And Snake beat him...Snake is an normal human...and Vogin is not even in this battle. And the X-Men would beat Volgin easily. Fear doesn't hold an candle to Beast...like I said, Fear is an double jointed human. He may have the agility of an circus artist and crossbows, but like I said, Beast has SUPERHUMAN agility. SUPERHUMAN. Normal humans (The Fear) are just not able to do things like that, even if they trained for 100s of years. Boss is nothing compared to Wolverine. You have never even said how The Boss could beat Wolverine.

Shang Chi has superhuman powers. He and Cap and Black Panther and Wolverine could beat Boss with ease. Wolverine is stronger, more skilled (100s years of experience), faster, has an healing factor, unbreakable skeleton and claws that cut through everything. The Boss is uh...weaker, slower, not as good fighter as Wolverine, Wolverine could break his arm with one snap...yeah. Boss would TOTALLY defeat Wolverine. 🙄 And Wolverine does have more stamina then The End(And the Snake, I don't know what you meant by comparing Snake's stamina in Wolverine's...Snake is an normal human. VERY highly trained human, but still, an normal human.).And an simple tornado or lighting from Storm would take out the End. (And Storm could do some damage? More like killing all the Cobra Unit in half a minute)

And a guy with old Russian cosmonaut suit and a Cold War flamethrower (the game is situated on Cold War time, if you don't know...) Will not take out any of the X-Men. Wolverine has survived flame assaults from people that have better flamethrowers and are more skilled the the Fury. Fury will die in few seconds. And it doesn't care if he has some flame soul, he is still dead, and death is an win for X-Men.

You don't have logic. You only have some INSANE F***** CAPS LOCK RAMBLING without S**T PARAGRAPHS.

that was the most insane post I have ever read here. 😆 😆

Appearently he thought that by shouting (typing in all caps on the internet) it'd make his point more valid. . .

But if these guys are as bad as he says, how did snake beat them? Hiding in a box?

maybe snake beat him cause hes the greatest soldier that ever lived{big boss at the time}, and the fear IS NOT FN HUMAN, hes not just double joinyted, he most certainly has SUPERHUMAN agility, ill tell u how the boss beats wolverine, after wolvie's defeat to elektra, ive found a flaw in wolverine that any human can exploit. wolverine has pressure points and nerve endings in his body just like any other human, and if those are hit or manipulated wolverine can fall unconcious, boss is skilled enough to do that{just a reminder but the master, with human strength beat namor with class 85 strength, just by manipulating his pressure points}

shang chi does NOT hae superhuman powers, he only has his chi, which he uses to concentrate his physical human powers, he is far more skilled than wolverine and could probably take out the boss, but cap couldnt take out the boss, and panther has a chance{owing only to his gadgets and suit n antimetal claws},

n for ur info that OLD russian astronaut suit is STILL an astraunat suit capable of withstanding the solar wind, and again his flame thrower burns pure rocket fuel, thas more than enough to take out beast, wolverine{n those people did NOT have better flame throwers than fury} and YES the fury dying DOES count as a kill, but those soul flames WOULD DEFINATELY TAKE EVERYONE OTHER THAN JEAN out, so fury dies by a lightning bolt from storm, than takes out every xman other than jean with him, so one down for the cobras and all but one down for the xmen, i STILL stand by what i said, the cobras without sorrow would lose to jean alone{all of them combined could take down storm, but not jean}, but once u put sorrow in the mix, he would win{and please would any1 post su info on the whole JEAN IS SECOND TO ONLY TOAA thing?}

Originally posted by leonheartmm
maybe snake beat him cause hes the greatest soldier that ever lived{big boss at the time}, and the fear IS NOT FN HUMAN, hes not just double joinyted, he most certainly has SUPERHUMAN agility, ill tell u how the boss beats wolverine, after wolvie's defeat to elektra, ive found a flaw in wolverine that any human can exploit. wolverine has pressure points and nerve endings in his body just like any other human, and if those are hit or manipulated wolverine can fall unconcious, boss is skilled enough to do that{just a reminder but the master, with human strength beat namor with class 85 strength, just by manipulating his pressure points}

shang chi does NOT hae superhuman powers, he only has his chi, which he uses to concentrate his physical human powers, he is far more skilled than wolverine and could probably take out the boss, but cap couldnt take out the boss, and panther has a chance{owing only to his gadgets and suit n antimetal claws},

n for ur info that OLD russian astronaut suit is STILL an astraunat suit capable of withstanding the solar wind, and again his flame thrower burns pure rocket fuel, thas more than enough to take out beast, wolverine{n those people did NOT have better flame throwers than fury} and YES the fury dying DOES count as a kill, but those soul flames WOULD DEFINATELY TAKE EVERYONE OTHER THAN JEAN out, so fury dies by a lightning bolt from storm, than takes out every xman other than jean with him, so one down for the cobras and all but one down for the xmen, i STILL stand by what i said, the cobras without sorrow would lose to jean alone{all of them combined could take down storm, but not jean}, but once u put sorrow in the mix, he would win{and please would any1 post su info on the whole JEAN IS SECOND TO ONLY TOAA thing?}

So basically youre asking for this info because you believe that someone would have to be second to TOAA to even stand a chance against sorrow? LOL 😆

Thats ridiculous. Galactus would squish Sorrow, Jean would punk Galactus and his heralds. END OF STORY

ni im not sayin that dumass, i just wanna make sure that jean really does have that kind of power because the sorrow could take on the traditional jean or dark pheonix. and galactus would not JUST squish sorrow, he was captured and imprisoned by mephisto in his realm and is not as powerful as mystical beings like dormammu.

Galactus would punk Sorrow 😆

and Dark Phoenix at her classic power lvl would eat Sorrow alive too. Anyway, nice pic clarifying Jean's role:

"she is the fire that ignited the first spark of creation. She is the fire that ultimately will consume it."

dark pheonix before her multiverse level makeover was powerful enough to recreate a sun or sumthinlike that, she wasnt any more powerful than that, n that was the pheonix i was initially comparin sorrow to, and galactus WOULD not just punk sorrow.

well, you should start a Galactus vs. Sorrow thread. It might make for some interesting debate anyway...

Dark Phoenix was stated to be "godlike" in power many times, and eating a sun was only what she did out of hunger. No limits were given to her power, so....

If Sorrow is more powerful then Dark Phoenix (Which he is NOT) how come he just didn't win the WWII alone? I have NEVER seen Sorrow do anything that would imply that he would beat Jean. Tell me, how can he do it?

i told u he becamea lot more powerful AFTER his death, as a living human his powers were limited as just a psychic medium who could converse with the spirits of the dead. the thing about sorrow after his death is that he became an immmortal wraith with incredible powers, he could do practically anything with his powers but one of the most basic thing was his ability to make people feel the pain and suffering of the death of their victims, and all the misery, sorrow etc, and in so doing, he became more the embodiement of sorrow then just a simple wraith, {like hes a concept now}, and it is because of this that i think that he could beat the original dark pheonix, i mean, u cant kill a wraith or sumthin that has become a concept{just like u cant just kill chaos and order or the pheonix force} as i have already explained, the sorrow's suttle influence on the real world was very great and he is very powerful but if the new pheonix is what u people say she is than ofcourse, even the sorrow cant beat her.

A wraith is essentially a spirit, right? Jean's fought someone who tried to commit suicide by entering his mind, and she and the other X-Men confronted beings similar to sorrow. And they won.

She killed 5 billion people. She's worked through it. That takes a tremendous amount of strength of mind and soul. Sorrow's not going to take her, raptor or not.

Sorrow has a mind, mind can be controlled/manipulated, Sorrow loses 🙁 poor Sorrow.

How the hell did snake beat a guy that can beat galactus?

He's just a fricken human with no powers. . .

Someone is overhyping Sorrow. Or maybe its because they thermselves had difficulty beating sorrow when they played through the game.

Sorrow would get punked by Jean. period.

Originally posted by Creshosk
How the hell did snake beat a guy that can beat galactus?

He's just a fricken human with no powers. . .

Someone is overhyping Sorrow. Or maybe its because they thermselves had difficulty beating sorrow when they played through the game.

Sorrow would get punked by Jean. period.

yeah, somone 🙄 😆

SNAKE "NERVER" BEAT THE SORROW, sorow allowed snake to live, he never wanted snake dead in the first place, hell he even helped snake on many occasions, sorrow does not have a PHYSICAL mind anymore, its more like sentience, normal dark pheonix could not do anythin against a concept, and sorrow does become the concept of sorrow more than a simple sentience anyway, hes not being overhyped at all, but as i said before that he would certainly lose to the new jeangrey who is supposedly the power that created the abstaracts, come to think of it, jean is the one beeing overhyped here

Originally posted by leonheartmm
SNAKE "NERVER" BEAT THE SORROW, sorow allowed snake to live, he never wanted snake dead in the first place, hell he even helped snake on many occasions, sorrow does not have a PHYSICAL mind anymore, its more like sentience, normal dark pheonix could not do anythin against a concept, and sorrow does become the concept of sorrow more than a simple sentience anyway, hes not being overhyped at all, but as i said before that he would certainly lose to the new jeangrey who is supposedly the power that created the abstaracts, come to think of it, jean is the one beeing overhyped here

what the hell is a "physical mind"? Mind making some sense? You dont have to have a brain to have a mind, in the comic books anyway, and telepaths go after the mind, not a brain. Jean telepathically froze the spirit of Apocalypse and ripped him out of her husband, now shes going to have trouble with some wraith who embodies sorrow?

physical mind is a ****in BRAIN!!! not the spirit of the body, and as far as the thing with apoc goes, that was his physical powers combined with his conciounce, it cant really count as a soul, atleast not in a fashion that sorrow represents, and, can apocalypse summon the souls of the dead to take revenge on their victim, can he tell the future, can he exist as a concept of sorrow as an abstract entity, can he take a person to the river of death, can he rip a person's coul apart, can he scan ur brain psinically, can he exist as as part of nature, can he just turn up anywhere as a spirit, can he make blood rain from the sky, can he make bolts of lightning powerful enough to destroy volgin and the shagohod, can he scan ur mind through mystical forces, can he cause golbal thunderstorms, can he manipulate reality, can he bring people back to life, can he hear dead people, can he feal the pain of all the sorrow in the world, can he become the embodiement of sorrow? NO HE CANT, n the jean then would be taken down by sorrow, but sorrow cant take down the so called new jean with more power than eternity, death etc.

HELLO!!! what are WE DEBATING SO ANGRILY FOR?!!!?! FOR *****s sake....****er *****er!!!! b****** ** *!!!*** .

Anyways, am I gonna read any spoilers for the new MGS game in here?
If so, ima not read it.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
physical mind is a ****in BRAIN!!! not the spirit of the body, and as far as the thing with apoc goes, that was his physical powers combined with his conciounce, it cant really count as a soul, atleast not in a fashion that sorrow represents, and, can apocalypse summon the souls of the dead to take revenge on their victim, can he tell the future, can he exist as a concept of sorrow as an abstract entity, can he take a person to the river of death, can he rip a person's coul apart, can he scan ur brain psinically, can he exist as as part of nature, can he just turn up anywhere as a spirit, can he make blood rain from the sky, can he make bolts of lightning powerful enough to destroy volgin and the shagohod, can he scan ur mind through mystical forces, can he cause golbal thunderstorms, can he manipulate reality, can he bring people back to life, can he hear dead people, can he feal the pain of all the sorrow in the world, can he become the embodiement of sorrow? NO HE CANT, n the jean then would be taken down by sorrow, but sorrow cant take down the so called new jean with more power than eternity, death etc.

No. He can't.

but Jean can do any things that you mentioned. And more. She is an reality warper.