Where was it stated that zatanna only has to think about something for it to happen? In Identity Crisis # 3 or 4 after stabbing flash slade runs towards Zatanna and before she could say slade stop he punches her in the gut and reaches for her rib cage so she cant speak she was out of the fight for a while. If she could simply think about slade stopping why didnt she?
Originally posted by life is cruell
Where was it stated that zatanna only has to think about something for it to happen? In Identity Crisis # 3 or 4 after stabbing flash slade runs towards Zatanna and before she could say slade stop he punches her in the gut and reaches for her rib cage so she cant speak she was out of the fight for a while. If she could simply think about slade stopping why didnt she?
Its stated here http://www.dcuguide.com/who.php?name=zatanna
And also in the DC Encyclopedia.
People dont always used their powers to the best of their abilities. Flash didnt even run at the speed of sound. GL didnt even use his power ring. Instead, he wanted to fight hand to hand? Its not necessary to bing up what happened in Crisis.
because the story would have been bad. that is why zatanna isn't seen that much anymore because DC realized she was too powerful, and if she did as she wanted the story's would be boring. but she said so erself in the wonder woman comic where all the men were turned into animals by circe. magneta was trying to cover zatanna's m,outh, but got defeated. zatanna then says
zatanna: when will people learn that is only a concentration excercise?
Originally posted by jrodslamYes. Because that was horrible. DC sometimes acts like they don't care how competant anyone looks but the big 3(Bats & that boring guy with the "S" on his chest & that boring chick with the magic lasso). I'm not sure, but I think Flash sells many more units than WW does. Why doesn't Flash get more respect than boring old WW?
Its stated here http://www.dcuguide.com/who.php?name=zatannaAnd also in the DC Encyclopedia.
People dont always used their powers to the best of their abilities. Flash didnt even run at the speed of sound. GL didnt even use his power ring. Instead, he wanted to fight hand to hand? Its not necessary to bing up what happened in Crisis.
Anyway, Strange beats her with ease. She's another attractive but boring character just like WW.
Youre right about DC puting alot of focus in the Big 3 mainly.
She(Zatanna) may be boring, but shes more powerful than almost any member in the JLA.
And I have yet to hear how Strange would beat her. Who needs speculation. Strange most certainly cannot beat her with ease. If anyone thinks so, please explain. Id sure like to hear it.
The reason I didn't add any artifacts to strange is because he'd murder her.
Zantannas natural abilities are powerful, but they aren't as powerful as the Gods that Strange is backed by. Most of his artifacts are from Gods that have power hundreds of times more power than Zantanna.
If Strange has the Eye of Aggamoto, he'd just mind wipe her in a half second.
That would be boring.
Strange is probably the better h2h fighter as well, he knows all known earth based martial arts.
As for Zantanna being able to destroy the world, no.
The spells she casts have to be basically ok'd or pre ok'd by the gods who grant her her power.
If she says "make the world blow up", it ain't happenin.
But, if she says "turn him inside out", it might, unless Strange counters it with a spell of his own.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Youre right about DC puting alot of focus in the Big 3 mainly.She(Zatanna) may be boring, but shes more powerful than almost any member in the JLA.
And I have yet to hear how Strange would beat her. Who needs speculation. Strange most certainly cannot beat her with ease. If anyone thinks so, please explain. Id sure like to hear it.
With the eye, the cape, or any of his artifacts, this isn't even a fight. long pig has made the fight more interesting. Strange could still win on experience, power (even without the artifacts, he could do just about anything she could,) and fighting ability.
She's very limited.
From what I've seen(correct me if I'm wrong) she can do anything....but on an extremely small scale.
People quote the time she turned the building into popcorn as her "big feat", but they don't ever say she DIDN'T MEAN TO.
She was trying to do something else entirely.
And how does Zantanna have more experience?
Strange has spent time training in universes where time ceases to exist, basically training for hundreds of years, and it would seem like seconds to us.
Originally posted by long pig
The reason I didn't add any artifacts to strange is because he'd murder her.
Zantannas natural abilities are powerful, but they aren't as powerful as the Gods that Strange is backed by. Most of his artifacts are from Gods that have power hundreds of times more power than Zantanna.
If Strange has the Eye of Aggamoto, he'd just mind wipe her in a half second.
That would be boring.Strange is probably the better h2h fighter as well, he knows all known earth based martial arts.
As for Zantanna being able to destroy the world, no.
The spells she casts have to be basically ok'd or pre ok'd by the gods who grant her her power.
If she says "make the world blow up", it ain't happenin.
But, if she says "turn him inside out", it might, unless Strange counters it with a spell of his own.
What makes you so sure Strange would murder her? Strange backed by Gods, but doesnt have the power of them. Does Strange have power of the Gods? No he doesnt. Mind wipe Zatanna in half a second? You cant be serious. Its obvious that from that statement, that you know nothing of Zatanna and highly underestimate her.
Strange knowing all earth based martial arts? Where did you get this information? Ive never heard of Strange using any type of martial atrs. Do you have any theorys to back that information up? Id sure like to see it.
Im not sure on what exactly are her limits as to what the "Gods" grant her. Im not even sure of the "Gods". Are you? How are you so sure that Strange's gods are more powerful than Zatanna's gods. C'mon now thats being ignorant.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Honestly, when did Zatanna become the Presence's sister? Seriously, her power is big, but still limited. She couldn't say "reficuL llik" and hope to accomplish anything. Strange is and pretty much always has been the top of the magic pile... Sorceror Supreme for a reason people.
She has yet to see a limit. " lliK reficuL" ? Why would she want to do that? Now this is getting rediculous. She doesnt have to say words in order to do spells.
"Strange is top of the magic pile in Marvel" I agree, but then again Scarlet Which freed the Eye of Agamatto from his control, and he couldnt even break free on his own will.
Over time, Zatanna has become one of the foremost experts of magic, alongside such powerful beings as Dr. Fate, The Spectre, and The Phantom Stranger.
Strange cant compete with that type of roster. He struggles with the likes of Yandroth. Bah!
For those who dont know who she is.
Real name: Zatanna Zatara
First Appearance: Hawkman (1st series) #14
Know relatives: Giovanni “John” Zatara (father, deceased), Sindella (mother, deceased)
Group Affiliation: Sentinels of Magic, formerly Justice League of America I
Know Allies: John Constantine, Tempest, Justice League of America III, Max Mercury, Kid Flash II (Impulse), Blue Devil, Tim Hunter
Major Enemies: Allura, The Diablos
Height:5’7’’
Weight:127 lbs.
Eyes: Blue
Hair: Black
Zatanna is the only daughter of the great magician of the Golden Age of Heroes, Zatara. When she was born, she was left in the sole care of her father, but while she was still young, he disappeared. She spent much of her youth wondering where her father had gone, and preparing her own magical abilities, similar to those of her father, to find him. During this time she encountered Max Mercury, who helped her early in her quest. She also met John Constantine, and the two became lovers.
Zatanna first came to the attention of the Justice League while searching for her father. After encountering many of the League, Zatanna found out the truth: a witch named Allura had imprisoned her father after cursing him. If he were to ever look upon his daughter again, they would both die. But by defeating Allura, with the aid of the Justice League, Zatanna broke the curse and was reunited with her father.
Zatanna became a member of the Justice League and hade many adventures with them, through many of its incarnations. At one time, by vote of the League, she used her powers to rearrange the mind of Dr. Light after his attack on Sue Dibny. The full ramifications of this have not yet been felt.
I was also during her time with the League that Zatanna learned about her mother. Sindella was a member of a race of people called Homo Magi, who were all gifted mages. Sindella had fallen in love with Zatara during an adventure they shared, but they were unable to maintain the relationship, as Sindella had to return to her home to keep back the invasion of the Hidden Ones. Zatanna and Sindella made peace, and developed a relationship before her mother’s death.
After aiding the Justice League during the great Crisis, Zatanna was called by John Constantine, to come and aid him in turning back a great force that would bring about the end of the world. She brought her father, and they, along with Constantine and a group of other mystics, formed a circle of power to try to hold it back. The power of the evil was too great, and the mystics began to burn alive, overtaken by evil. Zatanna was about to be overtaken when her father performed a spell that took the burden on him. He died, and the rift that formed between her and Constantine has never healed.
The wizard Wotan used Zatanna’s distraction to take over her body and attempt to use it as his new vessel. The Spectre saved Zatanna, but she decided to retire from the full time super-heroing. She spent more time on her stage magic act, and studying her heritage as a member of the Homo Magi.
Zatanna would not let her retirement keep her from her duty. When a major crisis happened she would return. She aided in stopping the witch Circe’s war of the gods, when the demon Neron sent an army of villains into the world, and when the power of the Spectre got out of control. She became a member of the Sentinels of Magic, a loosely affiliated team of mystics who would guard the world against mystical threats.
Recently, Zatanna has worked with the current incarnation of the Justice League on a couple of occasions. Once, she was thrust into the middle of a gang war between demon families, and she, along with her old friend the Blue Devil and his friend, Faust, aided the League in defeating them. She also worked with Tempest in attempting to return Atlantis from the mystical limbo that it had been placed in. Much more recently, she has returned to aid her old Justice League comrades in attempting to track down Sue Dibny’s killer.
Zatanna is one of the most powerful mystics to ever walk the Earth. Using the focusing technique of speaking something backwards (although she doesn't need to for the magic to work), she can make anything happen. She has never touched her full potential. But it has been suggested that she could reshape the entire world simply by speaking it. She is also an accomplished stage magician, knowing a great deal about slight of hand and other tricks of the trade.
Originally posted by jrodslam
What makes you so sure Strange would murder her? Strange backed by Gods, but doesnt have the power of them. Does Strange have power of the Gods? No he doesnt. Mind wipe Zatanna in half a second? You cant be serious. Its obvious that from that statement, that you know nothing of Zatanna and highly underestimate her.Strange knowing all earth based martial arts? Where did you get this information? Ive never heard of Strange using any type of martial atrs. Do you have any theorys to back that information up? Id sure like to see it.
Im not sure on what exactly are her limits as to what the "Gods" grant her. Im not even sure of the "Gods". Are you? How are you so sure that Strange's gods are more powerful than Zatanna's gods. C'mon now thats being ignorant.
He can certainly mind wipe her, and easily.
With the Eye, he's probably the strongest telepath on earth.
Strange has always known martial arts, he taught wong, they practice together all the time.
That shows me you have no clue about strange....check his bio dude.
How am I sure his gods are more powerful?
Easy, look at what he's done, and look at what she's done....he outclasses her.
Originally posted by long pig
He can certainly mind wipe her, and easily.
With the Eye, he's probably the strongest telepath on earth.Strange has always known martial arts, he taught wong, they practice together all the time.
That shows me you have no clue about strange....check his bio dude.How am I sure his gods are more powerful?
Easy, look at what he's done, and look at what she's done....he outclasses her.
Strange woudlnt be able to mind wip Zatanna. Not even Close, Prof X is the strongest telepath on earth. Strange isnt even top 10.
Hmmm. Practice with Wong or practice with Batman and Black Canary? I dont care what you say, Strange doesnt know all earth based martial arts. What a joke. In none of his bios does it say that. Not in Marvel, Not in Marvel Encyclopedia, not in Marvel Directorydoes it state that Strange is adept in any form of martial atrs. Dont make things up.
By feats you assume Strange's gods are more powerful than Zatanna's gods? Good conclusion lol. Zatanna has not limit. What she does, and what she fails to do because of lmits are totaly different. And she has yet to reach a limit.
Strange woudlnt be able to mind wip Zatanna. Not even Close, Prof X is the strongest telepath on earth. Strange isnt even top 10
Powers / Abilities:
Dr. Stephen Strange possesses the normal human strength of a man of his age, height, and build who engages in moderate regular exercise. Strange is this universe's Sorcerer Supreme, and as such, has the knowledge to call upon a great many different magical spells. He wears a cloak of levitation which allows him to fly and he uses the Eye of Agamotto which allows him to see through illusions and read minds. He also is a master of every known Earth Martial Art. Although not one of Marvel's current writers seem to know this fact. In the old days of Strange Tales and the first two series, he and Wong were often shown working out. In more than a few stories, Doc would find himself outgunned in the magic department and would use his vast martial arts abilities.
It's well known he is a master martial artist, have you ever read a Dr.Strange comic? ever???
I seriously doubt you have.
By feats you assume Strange's gods are more powerful than Zatanna's gods? Good conclusion lol.
Crack kills my man.
Lol. Where is that bio from? Its not in the Marvel Encyclopedia, or on Marvel.com. Strange is in no way a master at any type of martial arts. Lol.
http://marvel.com/universe/index.htm
Marvel itself says that Prof X is earths most powerful telepath. Whoever informs you of your false imformation is dead wrong my friend.
I think you need to stay off the same stuff im on buddy. 😆
http://marvel.com/universe/index.htm
http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=223
Master of the Mystic Arts not Martial Arts. And nowhere does it say anything about being even remotely in Prof X's league in telepathy. Nice try though. Looks like you dont know much about Strange either huh?
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Prof is the most powerful natural telepath on earth.
Strange isn't a natural telepath, he uses Agamotto (who is a god) to use magic that is identical to telepathy.
When he uses the Eye of Agamotto, he is many times more powerful telepathy wise than Prof X.
Read the old "Strange Tales", he is a master of all earth known martial arts, simple as that.
You never answered my question, have you EVER read a dr strange comic, or are the words in his comics too large for you?