Batman vs. Martian Manhunter

SETUP

Batman had some method of subdual prepared for every member of the JLA should the need have arisen to take them down.
At the time, Martian Manhunter was still vulnerable to fire, and the method Batman concocted for him was to have nanites attached to his skin that burst into flame upon contact with air, effectively turning him into a living torch.

Now that J'onn has overcome his previous fear of and vulnerability to fire, what would Batman come up with for his new contingency?

Essentially, this is Batman with six months of prep time vs. an unprepared (and potentially insane) Martian Manhunter.

Keep in mind that "unprepared" doesn't mean passive or foolish in this case. Assume Martian Manhunter is hostile to everyone, but not necessarily hunting for Batman specifically. When he does encounter Batman, he would approach him with full knowledge of what Batman is capable of, but he is unaware of whatever particular plan Batman has prepared.

RULES

1. Bringing in other members of the JLA is not an option.

2. Bringing any other beings into it is extremely unlikely, as they could introduce a level of unreliability that Batman would prefer not to deal with.

3. Technology
a) Any technology used must be constructed by Batman himself. No borrowing existing weapons from others. Secrecy is key.

b) Size/Portability is an issue. Weapons or machines should be able to be used or accessed under practically any circumstance and should not require the target to be standing on a big X in order for them to work.

c) Stupidly generic technology shouldn't be used. Examples are "an anti-martian ray", "a helmet that blocks all telepathy", or "something that prevents intangibility". You don't have to be a scientific expert (although it's certainly a plus if you are), but at least make an attempt to intelligently explain how and why something works.

d) No magic.

4. Unless absolutely necessary, excessively destructive forces are off limits. The idea is to protect the earth from the threat of Martian Manhunter gone bad, not take half of it out in the process.

5. Lethal means of bringing down Martian Manhunter are acceptable, but only as a last resort. Subduing him is far preferrable.

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NOTE: I am going to assume that most responses would include something about Batman exploiting the whole emotional flame vulnerability thing. While this can be a legitimate tactic, describe how it will be executed to best effect.
Something like, "Batman burns an orphanage in front of MM. End of story." doesn't cut it.

Well, I appreciate the fact that you really thought about this thread, and put a lot of effort in it, but there can be only one winner, and that's MM.

what are MM's powers besides telepathy and phasing

I think he also has super strength.

people were saying he was 2nd to superman and was almost faster

i've herd that too.

MM wins.

I hate to say considering im a huge Batman mark, but......MM beats him. MM is probably the most powerful memeber of JLA. He is just as fast, strong, and durable as the Big S AND he is a POWERFUL telapath.
Batman would probably know that MM's is vulnerable to fire, but before Bats can act on that thought, MM enters Bat's mind and simply turns the "off" switch. Game over.....leaving one question....
Who is know heir to the Wayne fortune???

He can be as strong/fast as superman, but for only a few minutes before his body breaks down.

He isn't over his fear of fire hardly at all, it's cultural.

Still, I can't see Bats winning without help.
The telepathy is a *****....

In Justice League Season 1, "Injustice For All part 1&2," Batman was bitten by Copperhead and had to be escorted back to the watchtower.

As soon as Bats woke up, he was ready to leave and track the injustice gang by himself.

Batman: "I'm going to find them."

[Manhunter stands in front of the door]

Martian Manhunter: You don't have to do this.

Batman: Do you want to try to stop me?

[Martian gets out of the way and Batman leaves]

What does that have to do with anything?
MM could have just broke his neck, but MM respects him.

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
In Justice League Season 1, "Injustice For All part 1&2," Batman was bitten by Copperhead and had to be escorted back to the watchtower.

As soon as Bats woke up, he was ready to leave and track the injustice gang by himself.

Batman: "I'm going to find them."

[Manhunter stands in front of the door]

Martian Manhunter: You don't have to do this.

Batman: Do you want to try to stop me?

[Martian gets out of the way and Batman leaves]

Originally posted by long pig
What does that have to do with anything?
MM could have just broke his neck, but MM respects him.

Just saying that if someone like Martian saw him as a threat, Batman stands a chance. God knows if that was Hawk Girl he woulda just b****slapped her with the back of his extraterrestrial hand.

The thing with Batman is, he will find a weakness. And it will be exploited to the max with new and innovative ways.

I never read the issue 'cause noone will tell me which one it is, but Batman defeated 4 white martians. 4 White Martians equates than at LEAST 1 1/2 Martian Manhunters. Batman is not one to be underestimated.

Okay, so for those of you who think Martian Manhunter is just too much for Batman, explain what would happen. And try to add at least a little detail.

For those of you who think Batman does have a chance, how do you think he might do it? What kind of trap/weapon/plan would he come up with?

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
Just saying that if someone like Martian saw him as a threat, Batman stands a chance. God knows if that was Hawk Girl he woulda just b****slapped her with the back of his extraterrestrial hand.

a) its a cartoon
b) youre drawing wild conclusions from it. How does it prove MM sees Batman as a threat?

Batman fans can explain him winning through scenarios. But all logic says that Batman should lose a fight like this 😛.

And scenarios are the worst thing ever to cite as evidence, just because of the fact that they are made up.

Batman fans can explain him winning through scenarios. But all logic says that Batman should lose a fight like this 😛.

And scenarios are the worst thing ever to cite as evidence, just because of the fact that they are made up.

I know J'onn would take this in a one on one, but this isn't supposed to be an arena battle or anything like that.
This isn't intended to be a straight up fight at all. The main question here is "what is Batman's new contingency plan for Martian Manhunter should he ever get out of control and be a danger to others?" His first contingency already worked, but now that J'onn isn't quite as susceptible to fire, I'm guessing he would have to use something else next time. At the very least, he would have to execute it differently.

I'm not looking for "evidence". I just want to know what people think he might come up with.

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
The thing with Batman is, he will find a weakness. And it will be exploited to the max with new and innovative ways.

I never read the issue 'cause noone will tell me which one it is, but Batman defeated 4 white martians. 4 White Martians equates than at LEAST 1 1/2 Martian Manhunters. Batman is not one to be underestimated.

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