tis cool , but we nerds have to argue the tech game points in it since its been moved here.
I'm not so sure here i have mk 3, all you have to do is 4 uppercuts, or learn the unbalanced combos, Sheevas does like 45%, it can get cheezy, but i loooooooooove cyrax.
You would do well on a sf low difficulty, but if you've made it to akuma ken and ryu, sagat, bison, or shin akuma on level 8, you would cry, and the older versions were too cheap for almost anyone. sf2 comes to mind.
Yes, but MK3 uppercuts are easily countered for that very reason. And I'm not sure what level I was on in SF, I haven't played in a while, I got more into MK than SF originally because I'm not a fan of anime. Ever since, I've been more with the MK franchise, but I also like the fighting system in the old MK alot. The new ones are not as good, but the orignals were totally revolutionary. So was Street Fighter. IMO, they're both very, very amazing franchises, I just have a bias towards MK because I have been with it more and longer because I wasn't a fan of anime. But they are both awesome games.
so... where'd all the debate go???
So, just 'cuz you lost against your cousin despite being a cheap-ass doesn't mean much. I also lost despite trying to be cheap. Doesn't mean much. Just cuz the blasts in SF are bigger and more exhaggerated don't mean that they're better. In fact, it kinda makes MK better. You can't just stand there shooting fireballs at people to win. Sub would be a god if he could just shot rapid freezerballs. Which is why he can't. He has to pause between attacks. Just makes sense...
And with Guile, I b*tch-slapped most of streetfighter turbo(i think that's the one...) by getting people in a corner and punching them to death, so...
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
so... where'd all the debate go???
So, just 'cuz you lost against your cousin despite being a cheap-ass doesn't mean much. I also lost despite trying to be cheap. Doesn't mean much. Just cuz the blasts in SF are bigger and more exhaggerated don't mean that they're better. In fact, it kinda makes MK better. You can't just stand there shooting fireballs at people to win. Sub would be a god if he could just shot rapid freezerballs. Which is why he can't. He has to pause between attacks. Just makes sense...
And with Guile, I b*tch-slapped most of streetfighter turbo(i think that's the one...) by getting people in a corner and punching them to death, so...
No once again you prove you know not what you're talking about so don't bother voicing your opinion. I meant in practice mode, messatsu gou hados are supers and are allowed to be used only once, silly boy. You couldn't even fire one, its a double reverse semi circle motion, and isn't for cheap asses, as fireballs are very easy to counter.You like to talk trash don't ya 😠
Anyway he is cheaper, because tactics that are used over and over again and take little effort and skill to perform, they are cheap, i.e constant tripping and throwing right when you get up. SF moves take more skill to use,a nd are not just down, forard , punch, they are used in motions and charges to balance them out, just like killer instinct, which also has a combo breaker feature.
Mortal Kombat is horribly broken and repetitive. People choose sub zero and scorpion because of their projectiles, and often cheezy teleport moves. There is no defense balance at all,and all characters take the same damage. Sf has a balance for faster and slower characters, MK has dial up combos that add little technical abiliity to the games. Want to do 35% damage, sure, just push, square,square, x,x , circle, square, triangle. SF has customable combos that show off easier if youre more advanced of a player,and you have parries, reversals, rolls, running, counters, and supers.
MK runs off of a gimmick, blood, if it werent for that noone would play and you know this as well as anyone on this forum. But like I already said MKD is a 4/5, but is not worthy of fighting tourneys because of its cheapnes w/ char like newb smoke and others, and no technical aspect at aal.
There is no cheap with shin akuma, silly. The guy SERIOUSLY dies in like two to three hits, and in sf you can do that easily. 😂
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No once again you prove you know not what you're talking about so don't bother voicing your opinion. I meant in practice mode, messatsu gou hados are supers and are allowed to be used only once, silly boy. You couldn't even fire one, its a double reverse semi circle motion, and isn't for cheap asses, as fireballs are very easy to counter.You like to talk trash don't ya 😠Anyway he is cheaper, because tactics that are used over and over again and take little effort and skill to perform, they are cheap, i.e constant tripping and throwing right when you get up. SF moves take more skill to use,a nd are not just down, forard , punch, they are used in motions and charges to balance them out, just like killer instinct, which also has a combo breaker feature.
Mortal Kombat is horribly broken and repetitive. People choose sub zero and scorpion because of their projectiles, and often cheezy teleport moves. There is no defense balance at all,and all characters take the same damage. Sf has a balance for faster and slower characters, MK has dial up combos that add little technical abiliity to the games. Want to do 35% damage, sure, just push, square,square, x,x , circle, square, triangle. SF has customable combos that show off easier if youre more advanced of a player,and you have parries, reversals, rolls, running, counters, and supers.
MK runs off of a gimmick, blood, if it werent for that noone would play and you know this as well as anyone on this forum. But like I already said MKD is a 4/5, but is not worthy of fighting tourneys because of its cheapnes w/ char like newb smoke and others, and no technical aspect at aal.
There is no cheap with shin akuma, silly. The guy SERIOUSLY dies in like two to three hits, and in sf you can do that easily. 😂
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
1. when did you ever say thhat you meant practice mode? All you wrote was that against your cousin, you tried to use a cheap strategy and lost. maby finishing your ideas would help. my supertelepathic helmet is in the shop 😉 Also, you said 'I honestly shoot 50 messatsu gou hados consecutivly on the ps controller yet lost to my cousin who had bison, and simply blocked and timed my attacks, though he loses all the time now.' hmm... since when did 50 mmean 1???? hmm... well I might just be adding something wrong... ;p
And just cause MK's system makes it possible for less skilled players to win a fight or to by finding a move that will almost always lead to victory don't mean you NEED to uset them. I beat 3 just fine through skill. And MK and SF use two extremely different systems. SF is more about getting in sweet combos and ultra huge blasts. MK tries to show off nice fighting styles and blood. Yes, I said blood. Everyone knows that it plays off the blood. So?? that means nothing. Just cause Boon found a way to milk the industry. It's still a pretty good collection.
As I said before: YOU DON"T NEED TO USE DIAL-A-COMBO!! I NEVER DO. I STILL DO PRETTY WELL. MK JUST WANTS THOSE WHO LACK THE GAMING PROWESS TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE GAME TOO. SOME OF US DON"T HAVE THE TIME TO GO THROUGH EVERY POSSIBLE COMBINATION OF ATTACKS TO FIND THE PERFECT COMBO. THAT OK WITH YOU?
And who ever said MK was supposed to be played for turneys?? Not I. And I don't find SF much better in that aspect.
Also, maby not bashing the game itself would be nice. You don't like it, fine. Each our own. But this isn't a critic forum. I for one don't care if you don't like the fighting system. Sound good? Cool. Let's go get some milk for you. OK?? 😄
No I never referred to practice mode but if you were familiar with it, you would have known how supers work. My point was that timing is more important than simply knowing the move list of your character, especially when you face a new opponent. Stop trying to avoid that spanking, you fanboy( which is ok, nothing wrong with it, its just hard to reason with them.chair
I wasn't bashing MK first, I said I would give the new one a 4/5, but this is now in the gaming forum, and is suspect to technical criticism, MK has put a lot more effort in their games, than capcom has been , but still well dressed mediocrity is still fancy mediocraty.
Its not it you need to win with combos, you can win by specials, but who does that? The combos were dial up on the previous one and Deception as well, I like both but don't need bias, as you seem to love.
Killer instinct was and still is great,but has flaws as well, the combo breaker system was flawed,and got cheap, and after a while it was block combo, block, like Mortal Kombat. Overall it was the most fun to pick up and play with humor and violence and skill based gameplay.
Street fighter has more lightning fast reflexes and movement, your oppenent changes their transition you'd better move it, and stay within your hitbox, there's air recovery dizziness,and a block gauge for the cheap block a holics, something mk also lacks. You can also block many of the throws in mk, making them useless.
I love all three titles, but know the difference in them, you like one and played only another, while you own probably just one. And i never recalled asking you what you thought I liked or didn't like, so keep it to yourself, unless you are going to bring up some points, and stop protecting your mk from criticism like a fanboy,chairlol. Youre ok though, you just like to talk trash, but I like that.
ok... you can stop calling me a fanboy now... I actually don't mind, since you clearly don't understand the connotations that follow that phrase, but you might get in trouble with someone for calling them a fanboy just because you don't see their side of the story.
And of course I'm gonna defend the game. Why not?? And you can save your critisisme might be correct, I really don't care, but this is the versus forum. Go create an anti-MK thread in the games fporum. Sound good? Great!! 🙂
Oh, and I don't really need to bring up any new points. Cause where are yours? You seem to think bashing the system of mk will win you this debate. It won't, it's just annoying. I'll just repeat myself in different words.
Who would win a fight: George Bush, owner of one of the biggest baddest places ever, or a guy with lots of guns? Obviously the guy with guns could hurt and kill people. But all Gorgy has to do is push the 'don't push' button and... POOF!! gone goes Mr. Crazy. All those men in suits at G's fingertip. That makes him pretty powerful. And who know wether he knows kungfu or not 😛
Oh, and Bush=Kahn Mr. Crazy = ... every SF guy you've mentioned so far.
Umm... notice how we're the only two around anymore? Fant is probly gone.
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
ok... you can stop calling me a fanboy now... I actually don't mind, since you clearly don't understand the connotations that follow that phrase, but you might get in trouble with someone for calling them a fanboy just because you don't see their side of the story.
You are defending one thing against another, and denying good points, because you don't want to hear them, without even having sufficient knowledge, that sounds like a fanboy, you haven't brought up anything but a rant.....
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
And of course I'm gonna defend the game. Why not?? And you can save your critisisme might be correct, I really don't care, but this is the versus forum. Go create an anti-MK thread in the games fporum. Sound good? Great!! 🙂
I already said I loved MK, but it lacks technical aspects, that need to be brought up, just like I did for the other 2 games, this about games and not characters, and they are going to get game criticizm, not comics, stotp ranting, if you don't care its because you don't know.
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Oh, and I don't really need to bring up any new points. Cause where are yours? You seem to think bashing the system of mk will win you this debate. It won't, it's just annoying. I'll just repeat myself in different words.
No I've been the only one bringing up true points, I'm not bashing anything, you just don't want to listen to your fanboyism tell you that mkisn't perfect, you don't like sf, fine by me, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to say what is true, that is annoying, because you are wasting my time.....
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Who would win a fight: George Bush, owner of one of the biggest baddest places ever, or a guy with lots of guns? Obviously the guy with guns could hurt and kill people. But all Gorgy has to do is push the 'don't push' button and... POOF!! gone goes Mr. Crazy. All those men in suits at G's fingertip. That makes him pretty powerful. And who know wether he knows kungfu or not 😛
Oh, and Bush=Kahn Mr. Crazy = ... every SF guy you've mentioned so far.what's your point akuma can destory this place in his sleep.
[QUOTE=4145219]Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
[B]Umm... notice how we're the only two around anymore? Fant is probly gone.
he learned his lesson, read before you post instead of skimming. 😉
hey lord of dreams , i respect your opnion of mortal kombat , but please at least respect our from street fighter , you started your point not defending mk but atacking sf , and you cant just compare 2 completly different things like bush and that crazy guy with mk and sf , the fact that not everybody doesnt have always time to discovery all types of combo is true , but the pro fighter have to discovery all kind of combos and even create others , you can be very good at the games without using great sweet combos , but you will never beat guys like justin , fatality and the others pro
Originally posted by Hoshi
hey lord of dreams , i respect your opnion of mortal kombat , but please at least respect our from street fighter , you started your point not defending mk but atacking sf , and you cant just compare 2 completly different things like bush and that crazy guy with mk and sf , the fact that not everybody doesnt have always time to discovery all types of combo is true , but the pro fighter have to discovery all kind of combos and even create others , you can be very good at the games without using great sweet combos , but you will never beat guys like justin , fatality and the others pro
Ok... what makes you think I have no respect for your points abou SF?? I respect them... or, no, I would respect them, if there were any. I already pushed your whole point about stomping the earth aside. I keep coming back hoping for some arguements from you. Is that so bad??
I don't really understand your point about the pros... I said you don't need to use dial-a-combo. I never even thought that you shouldn't ever use them. lol I have come up with a few combos my self, in fact 😉
Oh, and no offence to anyone... but gaming pros?? WTF!! lol
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Ok... what makes you think I have no respect for your points abou SF?? I respect them... or, no, I would respect them, if there were any. I already pushed your whole point about stomping the earth aside. I keep coming back hoping for some arguements from you. Is that so bad??
I don't really understand your point about the pros... I said you don't need to use dial-a-combo. I never even thought that you shouldn't ever use them. lol I have come up with a few combos my self, in fact 😉
Oh, and no offence to anyone... but gaming pros?? WTF!! lol
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SFer has kept going since it started the Fighting game commnity
MK became popular because it was the first game that wasent exactly like SF and because the blood factor.Nowadays its the butt of every joke in fighting game history
KI was a basically a rip on MK just that characters actually had moves and indivudal differences.They created dial-a-combos but they were pretty usless ingame since Combo-breakers usually did more dmaage han the first couple hits of a combo.Anyways it was done by 2 games
Its pretty easy to see who wins here.Wat gme WASENT joke asfter FF7 came out and moved the flavor of the month people away from Fighters to RPGs?Street Fighter wins
Ok, I know I am going to regret posting here...
I think I'll get the formalities out of the way: (Note: I am only comparing these guys from a purely videogaming perspective)
KI vs MK:
Since Shao Kahn was mentioned as the definitive boss character for MK, I'll compare bosses.
Kahn vs Eyedol: Kahn would win with only token difficulty, the two headed clubber is simply too outmatched against Kahn.
Kahn vs Gargos: This match is considerably closer, i'd have to go with a draw.
Now for the Nitty Gritty, SF vs MK (this is the hottest debated topic in this thread)
Kahn vs Bison: This match will be pretty one sided in favour of Kahn, until Bison springs a suprise Psycho Drive Crusher (And yes this move is so fast I can combo it from a crouching medium punch) Having said that, if this is bison's only saving grace, he would be going down soon after. Kahn wins.
Kahn vs Shin Akuma: Akuma would utterly dominate the fight, He has much higher priority (Several of his moves render him temporarily invulnerable), Has much higher speed and better recovery from his moves, not to mention his big 3 supers that simply kills opponents, The Shun Goku Satsu, The Misogi, and the Kongou Kokoretsu Zan. Landing with any one of these moves can shift the battle swiftly to Akuma's favour. Shin Akuma wins.