All Yoda's Fault.....

Originally posted by Lazerlike42
That's interesting.... what is he referring to when he says that he is not going to tell the council about it?

Yeah, I agree. It's quite obvious Obi Wan knows from very early... perhaps not of the marriage but definitely of the relationship.

Originally posted by astrofan428
Obi-Wan is like the Uncle who gives you beer and lets you watch porn while your parents are away. 😛

Originally posted by astrofan428
Obi-Wan is like the Uncle who gives you beer and lets you watch porn while your parents are away. 😛

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Originally posted by atlasorion
To say that training Anakin was the job of his jedi masters and not yodas responsibility is like saying that the war in iraq in colin powell's fault, and not dubbya's. EVERYTHING is Yoda's responsibility, he's the head muppet. The root cause of this entire debate is a poor storyline that focuses far too much on trying to establish some sort of lineage or legacy for the jedi to tie into the original three films. Having just seen the third movie and having the ill judgement to have actually paid money to do so, I can say with confidence that the entire affair is simply G-Luc trying to justify his insatiable greed for money with a poorly constructed effort that lacks any semblance of plausible logic simply so that he can make these first three egg suckers.

Actually, I am convinced that money has little to do with it. Although it is a factor for every person, I have become convinced this is all about Lucas' vision.

I have way too many ideas about this to list here, but here's one lol:

The new soundtrack releases.... I thought at first, oh, trying to wring every last dollar out of Episode 3. Then I realized what they're really for (IMO): the utter annihalation that the OT ever existed in any form other than the Special Edition. The DVD is special edition, and remember there are some significant soundtrack changes in the Special Edition, most notably the celebration theme at the end of ROTJ (which I can't stand the change). I am thoroughly convinced Lucas couldn't care less about the money he is simply trying to make every effort possible to erase all memories of the OT as we remember it so as to have his work of art as he "envisioned" it.

"Every Trilogy VHS is now an enemy of the Republic"

Lazerlike42
(Anakin falls to the dark side because his feelings and emotions are never addressed, and in fact what everyone keeps telling him is that his feelings shouldn't or don't matter. Yoda essentialy tells him he's not allowed to have feelings at one point during the movie.

Obi-Wan does not kill Anakin out of feelings. He himself shows attachment, something forbidden to the Jedi. If the Jedi were all correct in their ways, then Obbi-Wan is in great error and commiting the very same "sin" as Anakin did insofar as that he had feelings and attachment.

He was wrong not to strike Anakin and make sure it was done, but he was wrong not only tactically but also insofar as that he made himself a hypocrite. If it were so that the Jedi paid more attention to the human (or Twi'lek or whatever) side of people, both Anakin and Obi-Wan would very likely have been able to keep their feelings in check (though if Anakin did, Obi-Wan would have had no oppurtunity to). The error is on the shoulders of the Jedi order, of whom Yoda is a key figure.)

you have to have self control and don't let your emotions control you like Anikan for episode 2 attack of the clones he killed all those sand people cuz he was angry if you go around doing that you will have guilt of doing something wrong but being a Jedi means no distrations like in the war if you make friends or have some body special at home you will get attack and then when they die you get sad and spend time morning over them so thats why Anikan turned to the darkside he was scared of losing his wife and he tried to save her and he kinda killed her and why he didn't become Jedi Master was because he wasn't fighting at full potencial if he had more patience he would be the Master of Jedis

If Qui-Gon was alive it would have made no difference. Anakin would have no lived up to his potential and would not have been unable to kill Sidious. I dont think anyone could have been able to kill him other then Anakin and to do that HE HAD to turn to the dark side. He was the chosen one, but the prophecy was never specified on the road in which t o obtain balance. They even said in Episode 3 the prophecy could have been read wrong, and it was. The only way he could have killed Palpatine was to go threw hell and be brought back by the love for his child. Everything in the story happened for a reason, Sidious knew what was going to happen because he could see the future (anakin turning and all), he could not forsee his death because the LIGHT side was cloudying his powers in ROTJ (IMO)...i dont really think it was anyones FAULT...i think it was just all necessary...

Well, to me I think it was all Qui-gon's fault because Qui-gon told Obi/Ben-Kenobi to train Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader. Yoda... well it was not his fault because he just keept saying no Yoda just said go ahead but the dark side Annie will become.

Yoda ran away from his duel with the emperor when he could have sacrificed himself to destroy him... Considering what was at stake, it was pretty selfish to run away.

It is all Qui-gon's fault

qui gon? man, that is crazy. NO WAY could he have seen what was to come. he would have been the ideal master for annie.

It was Qui Gon's fault that Annie turned to the dark side. Because Qui Gon's apprentice trained Annie.

huh? thats like saying that hitler's descendants are responsible for his killing millions of jews.

People who say Qui Gon is to blame: dude... did you even read any of what was posted on the second page?

Originally posted by mysterio69
why qui-gon? if you were him and tested a little kid's midi-blah-blah count and he had even more than yoda, would you just say, "meh" and leave him there?

No, I would have said "mooh" and left him there.. there's a subtle difference (the difference being "mooh" is a more impressed reaction to the midi-blah-blah than a mere "meh"😉.

The point is...... I'm stupid.

Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
People who say Qui Gon is to blame: dude... did you even read any of what was posted on the second page?

Originally posted by jabbar
No, I would have said "mooh" and left him there.. there's a subtle difference (the difference being "mooh" is a more impressed reaction to the midi-blah-blah than a mere "meh"😉.

The point is...... I'm stupid.

don't be so hard on yerself. i'm just more a fan of "meh."

Nothing is anyones fault. Anniken did what he was born to do, Kill the sith lord brining balance. He threw Sidious in that hole in "Revenge of the Jedi"

Mind you I don´t know how destrying one side of the force brings balance, more like unbalance.

What up people

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Originally posted by green dude
umm could you guys kill your best friend of all time who saved you life for 4 times nope he thought he would die and he couldn't bear looking at him but i would take him back with me and help him and then he would be good again but he would be handycaped so he couldn't pose a threat that way every on wins except darkside 😄

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Would you let your best friend burn alive? I would of put him down or at least pushed him in so the burning was faster.

obi-wan is a jedi, through and through. a jedi doesn't kill an unnarmed man...especially if he's honestly unnarmed. 😛 and yeah, he couldn't bring himself to kill him.