Originally posted by SunRazer
lol If you knew anything about me, you'd realize I abandoned several CV debates (and on here, I believe) if I thought there was no point in responding. I was just laughing at you calling third-person, objective canonical statements "my conjecture".By the way, Luke comparing Kun more to Sidious than to Vader paints a pretty good picture of how powerful Kun is. Joruus doesn't have hype on that level, either. Just for good measure, Exar's also far more powerful than Force users with powers that have affected entire planets.
As I've said before, if you're done debating, why are you still replying? Make like Elsa, and let it go, and stop replying, bro.
Also, Luke ranked facing off against C'baoth on the tier of battling the Emperor against Sidious as well. And so what? C'baoth took over an entire planet before gaining a substatial amount of power, and Thrawn recognized him as a threat to the entire Empire (which includes mutiple planets and shit) because of his immense power in the Force.
Still waiting for that hype that puts Kun above Joruus bruh - but I must be talking to a ghost because you didn't eant to debate pages ago.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The fact Luke is better in those categories are irrelevant to my point. 😬If this was a "Most Masterful / Skilled Jedi, Dark Jedi and Sith" thread then there would be a debate, but there's not really here.
This thread is discussing who is more powerful, and a Force Storm is a greater indication of power than any feat Luke has ever produced.
You're assuming Luke has the [b]power
to do the Force Storm(s), just hasn't since he has morals. I call BS since Luke hasn't shown that caliber of power. [/B]
1) Why so? They have both showed themselves to be superior in other categories, and since we won't be seeing them Luke unleashing all of his power to utterly destroy shit because of morals, that is what I'm going on. If Luke's power in the most fundamental and exigent combatively Force abilities surpass Palpatine by a noticeable margin, then I fail to see why he wouldn't be more powerful overall. You did mention applicable combat power, and what I named IS applicable combat power. Because, you know - opening a Force Storm in combat is retarded. But even if we're talking about just overall power - canon has confirmed Luke strength in the Force is superior to Palpatine. Out of Universe commentary from the NJO writers and Lucas himself suggest this.
2) IIRC, Luke himself hinted him and his students being able to create Force Storm-like destruction in the Jedi Academy novel. Leeeeet me see if I can find the quote for that shit.
But given Luke's greater Force potential, raw power, and greater display of nearly every single Force ability they have in common, I wouldn't call it bullshit.
Originally posted by SunRazer
I'm actually tempted to find time to debate this, lol. I might make a response later.Prepare to get disappointed DC, lol.
That's the reason I started flinging shit at you from the get-go Nova. My goading worked like a charm. Raze my post Razer, wreck it until nothing remains!
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Originally posted by Deronn_solo
That implies Nova is Vitiate level, LAWL.The dude is Droid fodder compared to my prowess most of the time.
Mmm.... just because you've been beaten in the CaV and you ran from the other one? Ah, yes. I feel your anger. It makes you strong... but you'll never be as strong as me.