cannonball (adult version) vs superman

here is a bio of cannonball powers:

Powers: mutant - release thermochemical energy as an impenetrable blast field, using it as a personal shield or extending it to encompass others, focus it into rocket thrust or bio-kinetic blasts from his hands, shape the field around another person to imprison them, or absorb outside kinetic impact into his own energy supply, then rechannel it to increase the bludgeoning power of his blows or create explosive shock waves upon impact

this is cannonball at the max of his power, he is considered an external. In this fight he already has his force field up. As you see it states that he can absorb kinetic energy, that means that he can absorb superman punches and send it back to him. Please dont say that superman would win because he is superman. This is the adult version of cannonball, he cannot be hurt by any means while in flight. If your voting for superman give a reason why.

I think you mean eternal, not external. Hmmm, don't know much about Cannonball, so I'm not making any comments. I'm pretty sure he's like an eternal like Ikaris, Sersi, Ajak, etc...

You sure like rooting for the underdog derrick24.

Originally posted by Sentry
I think you mean eternal, not external. Hmmm, don't know much about Cannonball, so I'm not making any comments. I'm pretty sure he's like an eternal like Ikaris, Sersi, Ajak, etc...

no actually he is external.not eternal.......eternals..are powerful beings off shoots of humanity , like sersi ,ajax,ikaris.....externals are immortal mutants like A-poc and cannonball....they manipulate world events behind the scenes......

Originally posted by colossus17
no actually he is external.not eternal.......eternals..are powerful beings off shoots of humanity , like sersi ,ajax,ikaris.....externals are immortal mutants like A-poc and cannonball....they manipulate world events behind the scenes......

Oh my bad. Don't know too much about Cannonball.

its cool

Whatever he is, he loses.

does kinetic energy include thermal attacks like heat vision and ice breath?

this cannonball is stated as being unbeatable in the marvel universe. He can absorb any kind of physical attack to increase his strength and however hard superman hits him he can absorb it and hit superman with the same amount of strength.
this cannonball isnt a underdog anymore, he is superman on the xmen team. The guy took on a guy that can think of any power and do it and cannonball killed him, easily.

The reason i pit superman against him is because superman dont have anything that could harm cannonball, whereas cannonball can just put a force field around superman and fly both of them in the ocean and let water in and see how long superman can breath under the water.

Bishop classified cannonball as the most powerful mutant on the planet. He takes superman, unless you all say that superman can break thru the force field, which gladiator himself couldnt do against the teenager cannonball.

read the bio again on cannonball and see what he is capable of.

Superman could ice him. Or just dodge everything. There really isn't much Cannonball could do.

He means Externals, and I hate to say this, but Cannonball is not one. Selene states that he is not an External in X-Force #54. And Selene is an External.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/pov/showquestion.asp?faq=5&fldAuto=37

Supes is faster than Sam even as an Adult, as invulnerable as Sam blasting.

Supes matches sams spped and trajectory, flies behind him and grbs hold diverts his flight path into the Sun at Superepeed 😄

Poor old Jug ears, I always liked Sam, and Darkcrawler isright Sam was never an external. Didn't Selene absorb them? So much for being invulnerable!

😄 Keep the faith

😄 Keep it Whirly

and Derek read some better comics please!

answer this question do darkseid have superspeed. Does metallo have superspeed. How could superman ice a person that can expand his force field or that can increase the temperature of his force field. Why didnt gladiator heat vision work on sam. heat vision is stated to burn as hot as the center of a star.

Theres nothing superman could do to sam. Superman can punch him he would absorb it. He can fly behind his back and hit him just like you said but he will absorb that and use it against superman. Why didnt superman use his super speed and took the knife from ral ul before he got stabbed in the chest. Does batman has superspeed because i have seen him many of times tag superman. Did venom have superspeed when he slapped superman around like a hoe. Did hulk have super speed when he threw superman into space.

To you all superman beats anybody, lobo dont even have super speed but he stumped a mud hole in superman, while intoxicated and if you say lobo has superspeed show me a bio and i will show you 1 that dont say anything about lobo having super speed. Cannonball CANNOT BE HURT BY PHYSICAL MEANS, the guy ran into a gas tanker and it blew up while he was inside and he flew right back out.

Superman isnt invulnerable anymore, look at his face when the jla went against that space ship in space. He had a swollen lip, black eyes, and bleeding out the nose. Then he got his jaw cracked, doomsday broke his arm. Another superman villian scratched him across the chest. Hes nowhere near to being invulnerable, he can just take a lot of punishment.

Cannonball have never been hurt while in flight (current cannonball), his only weakness is magic. Im seeing superman trying real hard to knock this guy out, but none of his punches work and then superman gives him his strongest hit, not knowing that canonball is absorbing his attacks and cannonball hits him with that same punch, koing him.

Gladiator gave cannonball his hardest punch, stated that when it connect he is going to fly to the center of the sun. I dont think a punch could get any stronger than that. then once the punch connected cannonball was still standing there, he absorbed the entire punch and sent it right back at gladiator. this was the teenager (cannonball), the current cannonball will own superman.

Originally posted by derrick24
Why didnt gladiator heat vision work on sam.

Cannonball CANNOT BE HURT BY PHYSICAL MEANS, the guy ran into a gas tanker and it blew up while he was inside and he flew right back out.

Your comical vendetta against a fictional character is just that. Comical.

look here and see him take a punch that comes from a guy who strength is unlimited.and this is the teenage version that havent fully tapped into his powers like the older version has.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=80&page=5

whats up swanky glad your here to debate. gladiator and superman heat vision are the same and sam didnt even feel it. Is superman arctic breath as cold as ice mans powers because during a training session cannonball was increasing the temperature in his forcefield and the ice wasnt doing nothing but melting.

Do you know that nothing can go into his bio forcefied, NOTHING. Not heat vision, not punches, not arctic breath, nothing can get into the force field.

Gladiator didn't use heat vision in that fight....... has there been another fight between those 2?

Glad's vision isn't the same.
Why would you even think that??

There are many differences between Glad and Sup.

I hate them both though.

Do you possibly think that SUperman could blitz CB before CB can think about moving?
Superman(even if you say he can only go as fast as a bullet) is still faster than human thought, so he could tag CB before CB could react.

You may say "show me where when why who what how" I won't answer, just trust me...he has done it.

your defense???