Originally posted by Blair Wind
and they include telepaths, mags, and iceman who actually knows ALL his powers....hmmmm nope no cannonball there.....ok cannonball is cool and everything but their has to be a limit to the amount of energy he can absorb, he's not god, and after Supes hits him a bunch of times well, he'll explode.
superman doesnt need to hit him, I dont think that would work anyway- Cannonball absorbed Gladiators most powerful punch. Heat vision or ice breath would be the victory cards.
I just read the other pages and this is a surprisingly good thread. But the CB supporters r right; Gladiator already proved that punching CB wont do anything...even if ur Superman. Gladiator is faster and stronger than SM, so dont say he could speed blitz him or punch him so hard he would blow up. IF CB absorbs a couple SM punches and gives them right back to SM it will hurt. Heat Vision of Laser Vision doesnt matter...someone said Gladiator's vision is radiation while SM's is like a laser...I would just like to remind everyone that a laser is composed of light and light is a form of radiation. Heat or laser, doesnt matter, they r still part of the EM spectrum.
Conversely, CB technically shouldnt be able to do anything to SM cuz he is capable of moving at speed approaching light speed in the atmosphere(only possible in DC, not Marvel) without burning up the atmosphere. However, characters like Metallo, Shaggyman, Grundy, etc. have physically engaged SM without superspeed (a huge contradiction but negligible in DC).
Thus this fight would go on forever until one character holds the other character's girlfriend hostage.
Originally posted by Draco69
As I said before. In a recent issue of Uncanny X-Men, Cannonball had his leg broken by a robot even though he was blasting. This shows that he's hardly invulnerable.And the Cannonball/Gladiator fight is just PIS. As was Spider-Man vs. Firelord.
PIS because? Because it shows CB beating a very Superman like character? What were u saying about my posts not having anything to back them up and about u not being pro-DC? Cannonball beat Gladiator because by the definition of his powers Gladiator shouldnt be able to harm him.
Hmm . . . As it turns out heat vision wouldn't work because it IS a kinetic attack.
Heat is a form of energy due to the total kinetic energy of molecules and atoms of matter. The relationship between heat, temperature and kinetic energy of atoms and molecules is the subject of statistical mechanics. Heat is more akin to work in that it represents a change in internal energy. The energy that heat represents specifically refers to the energy associated with the random translational motion of atoms and molecules in some identifiable matter within a system. The conservation of heat and mechanical work form the first law of thermodynamics.
Heat energy is basically MOVEMENT of atoms, molecules etc. The faster they move the hotter it seems, slower the colder.
But if canonball takes in kinetic energy, then that means he's working off of an er=nergy that, like heat, increases movements.
Canonball's force feild was expanded to shatter an icedome . . indicating that Iceman directed his attack around canonball (in the form of the dome) rather than directly at Canonball (like cold breath would).
The breath would technically be removing heat (movement, kinetic energy) rather than giving to it. . .
for comic book purposes, though, I dont know if heat attacks power Cannonballs force field, which is usually shown as absorbing physical attacks.
Theres a lot of confusion over the fundamental forces- For example, gravity and the EM spectrum are not closely related, but Magneto is shown to have gravitational effects with some of his powers- like creating a wormhole.
Originally posted by Wynndar
I just read the other pages and this is a surprisingly good thread. But the CB supporters r right; Gladiator already proved that punching CB wont do anything...even if ur Superman. Gladiator is faster and stronger than SM, so dont say he could speed blitz him or punch him so hard he would blow up. IF CB absorbs a couple SM punches and gives them right back to SM it will hurt. Heat Vision of Laser Vision doesnt matter...someone said Gladiator's vision is radiation while SM's is like a laser...I would just like to remind everyone that a laser is composed of light and light is a form of radiation. Heat or laser, doesnt matter, they r still part of the EM spectrum.Conversely, CB technically shouldnt be able to do anything to SM cuz he is capable of moving at speed approaching light speed in the atmosphere(only possible in DC, not Marvel) without burning up the atmosphere. However, characters like Metallo, Shaggyman, Grundy, etc. have physically engaged SM without superspeed (a huge contradiction but negligible in DC).
Thus this fight would go on forever until one character holds the other character's girlfriend hostage.
Thankyou someone finally knows of cannonball powers.
You cannot hurt cannonball and superman isnt going to do no better than gladiator even though gladiator was toying with him. Gladiator most powerful punch didnt do nothing to cannonball, what is superman going to do.
Originally posted by Draco69
As I said before. In a recent issue of Uncanny X-Men, Cannonball had his leg broken by a robot even though he was blasting. This shows that he's hardly invulnerable.And the Cannonball/Gladiator fight is just PIS. As was Spider-Man vs. Firelord.
Draco that same robot that your talking about would kill superman, and it didnt break cannonball legs. That same robot punched rachel out of orbit. That same robot can scan you so that your powers wont work on it. That same robot would also rape doomsday.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
the ice attack WOULD work.....iceman was freezing the air AROUND CB, supes would just freeze him......but wait a min......does his feild cover his face too? i mean then its just hitting his field.....oh idk its confusing
his entire body is covered and he can increase his temperature in his force field. He can also make the area around him explode. Superman attacks isnt working. Like i said during training he went against ice man and just stood there while ice man attacked and he increased his temperature melting the ice before it touched him.
Originally posted by derrick24
Thankyou someone finally knows of cannonball powers.
You cannot hurt cannonball and superman isnt going to do no better than gladiator even though gladiator was toying with him. Gladiator most powerful punch didnt do nothing to cannonball, what is superman going to do.
You are saying cannonball can beat Gladiator?