Originally posted by Nephthys
This is Anakin at the end of RotS when he's freaking out and losing to Obi-Wan. Maul can take him.
Kenobi knew his moves inside and out and still had to backtrack most of the fight. Despite his energy efficient form, he was breathing more heavily at the end than Anakin was. Maul loses.
Originally posted by cs_zoltanThanks for the link to the obviously not real, never-actually-happened Vision.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctN5s8z3E8E
Originally posted by Jmanghan1)No, the time that Kenobi tried to fight Maul in single combat above Opress and Ventress and got his ass kicked like a *****.
2)Just so you know, Maul only got better with time, as he's apparently at his best in Rebels.
3)Kenobi was holding them off, Maul force blasted his ass and Kenobi was nearly KO'ed.
1)That was After Kenobi had just been battered by both brothers.
2)And Skywalker also improved through TCW plus post CW. Rebels Maul states he can't take Vader/Skywalker alone. That's always been the case since Maul's revival tbh.
3)Smashing Opress's knee in and chopping his arm off is more than just holding them off. Maul used the Force blast to basically run away and admit defeat "come brother, this plan has failed." Not saying Kenobi > Maul, but he looked the best in that fight. Let's not also forget they had a 1 v 1 in the same episode with neither looking superior (but Kenobi does land that kick which puts Maul on his knees).
Originally posted by Darth Thor
1)That was After Kenobi had just been battered by both brothers.2)And Skywalker also improved through TCW plus post CW. Rebels Maul states he can't take Vader/Skywalker alone. That's always been the case since Maul's revival tbh.
3)Smashing Opress's knee in and chopping his arm off is more than just holding them off. Maul used the Force blast to basically run away and admit defeat "come brother, this plan has failed." Not saying Kenobi > Maul, but he looked the best in that fight. Let's not also forget they had a 1 v 1 in the same episode with neither looking superior (but Kenobi does land that kick which puts Maul on his knees).
Getting beat up doesn't really affect your abilities in a saber duel that happens later on, and it shouldn't have affected Kenobi to that degree.
Good thing that ANH Vader is better then ROTS Anakin in every way.
No, he got pissed and blasted his *****-ass because Kenobi cut Opress' arm off and broke his leg, which wasn't impressive, considering Kenobi is a vastly superior combatant to Opress. Once Maul fought Sidious, he was able to push him, and you can even see it on Sidious' face.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Getting beat up doesn't really affect your abilities in a saber duel that happens later on, and it shouldn't have affected Kenobi to that degree.Good thing that ANH Vader is better then ROTS Anakin in every way.
No, he got pissed and blasted his *****-ass because Kenobi cut Opress' arm off and broke his leg, which wasn't impressive, considering Kenobi is a vastly superior combatant to Opress. Once Maul fought Sidious, he was able to push him, and you can even see it on Sidious' face.
Thankgod someone sees Maul's accomplishment against Sidious.
I God damn hope Maul falls at Sidious' blade not Obi-Wan's. I always felt Maul was superior to Kenobi in every and you can make more of a story out of a Maul vs Sidious fight. They come head to head and Maul challenges him to a duel without the force, they battle for ages and Maul gets a few good hits in. Maul's desire to kill his master as well as prove to Sidious that he was worthy all along will make him fight even harder and stronger. Sheev impales him but tells Maul he was a truly great warrior before Maul falls to the ground and dies.
Originally posted by chingchangwalla..Uh, Palpatine's an *******.
I God damn hope Maul falls at Sidious' blade not Obi-Wan's. I always felt Maul was superior to Kenobi in every and you can make more of a story out of a Maul vs Sidious fight. They come head to head and Maul challenges him to a duel without the force, they battle for ages and Maul gets a few good hits in. Maul's desire to kill his master as well as prove to Sidious that he was worthy all along will make him fight even harder and stronger. Sheev impales him but tells Maul he was a truly great warrior before Maul falls to the ground and dies.
I don't think he's ever shown real recognition to anyone unless it was to further his own agenda, he mocked Maul the first time, he'll do it again.
Palpatine respects no one and only cares about himself and the dark side.
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
I God damn hope Maul falls at Sidious' blade not Obi-Wan's. I always felt Maul was superior to Kenobi in every and you can make more of a story out of a Maul vs Sidious fight. They come head to head and Maul challenges him to a duel without the force, they battle for ages and Maul gets a few good hits in. Maul's desire to kill his master as well as prove to Sidious that he was worthy all along will make him fight even harder and stronger. Sheev impales him but tells Maul he was a truly great warrior before Maul falls to the ground and dies.
Originally posted by Jmanghan1)Getting beat up doesn't really affect your abilities in a saber duel that happens later on, and it shouldn't have affected Kenobi to that degree.
2)Good thing that ANH Vader is better then ROTS Anakin in every way.
3)No, he got pissed and blasted his *****-ass because Kenobi cut Opress' arm off and broke his leg, which wasn't impressive, considering Kenobi is a vastly superior combatant to Opress. Once Maul fought Sidious, he was able to push him, and you can even see it on Sidious' face.
1) Struggling to get up from a concussion doesn't effect your combat ability? Really?
I will note however that Kenobi was winning that fight until he got distracted with aiding Ventress.
2) And by the looks of things Rebels Maul is also > TCW Maul. They both massively improved throughout TCW and afterwards as well. Vader/Skywalker always seemed to be ahead of Maul though (since his revival) tbh.
3) It is impressive because he wasn't fighting Opress 1 v 1, he was fighting Maul+Opress together. So he had to stomp Opress while holding Maul at bay. A force push isn't the end of the world unless it KO's the opponent and leaves him vulnerable. Kenobi was actually blasted off the arena, so would have been fine by the time Maul reached him (had Maul pursued him).
And again let's not forget the Maul vs Kenobi 1 v 1 in the same episode.
Don't see how the Sidious fight is relevant.