So I read like the first two pages of this thread so far, and here are some comments I have:
Flash has the speed advantage, meaning he could hypothetically avoid Superman for quite awhile. However, Superman has definitely got the endurance advantage, meaning eventually Wally would have to slow down or stop, and then it's bye bye.
Flash could steal his kinetic energy, but I think all that would do is trip Superman up for a a second (I'm basing this off a statement made in Flash #102? #104? Sorry guys, I'll get the issue number in the morning).
Flash is faster than heat vision.
Some high velocity punches would probably have some effect, but Superman should be fast enough to fight back.
And then there's the "Wally collects Kryptonite" theory, which would actually probably work, but I don't know if the thread creator would allow it.
Originally posted by K3VIL
He can it Superman with Speed Force bolts, with proved to be very powerful and travel fast too, then perform a single IMP, during the process of the IMP he sayed he can hit Zum thousand times before he can blink an eye, and one thousand IMP are too much even for Supes.
Eventhough im rooting for Flash in this one, I have to come to Supermans defence here.
Flash wouldnt be able to hit Superman with a thousand IMP's. It takes time for Flash to build up the speed in order to do it. It took him 7 seconds to do it to Grodd in Flash #211. And that was just to knock him out. In order for Wally to do a successful imp against Superman, he'll need more time and distance to pull it off.
I still say Flash wins by stealing Supes's speed, unless Superman uses the icy breath which might have a chance of slowing Wally down. It works for Capt.Cold.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Eventhough im rooting for Flash in this one, I have to come to Supermans defence here.Flash wouldnt be able to hit Superman with a thousand IMP's. It takes time for Flash to build up the speed in order to do it. It took him 7 seconds to do it to Grodd in Flash #211. And that was just to knock him out. In order for Wally to do a successful imp against Superman, he'll need more time and distance to pull it off.
I still say Flash wins by stealing Supes's speed, unless Superman uses the icy breath which might have a chance of slowing Wally down. It works for Capt.Cold.
Originally posted by K3VIL
It's not a matter of distance.
Also, the issues with guys like Cap Cold are cheap written.
I mean, if Flash himself stated he can hit someone with the energy of the IMP before he can blink an eye, he's not doing some bravado assumption, he knows the limits of his powers, and even if it's not a thousand times, it's certainly over 20 the number of IMP he can throw you, it means Supes will go down anyway.
Agreed, not to mention the fact that Superman is nowhere near the Flash in speed. Superman's speed limit on Earth is Mach 10, at maximum.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Agreed, not to mention the fact that Superman is nowhere near the Flash in speed. Superman's speed limit on Earth is Mach 10, at maximum.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
ok...im rooting for flash here because well he should be able to kick the crap out of almost ANYBODY....but why is it that he is always getting HIS ass kicked???
he lacks focus being fast or powerful doesn't make you invicible young warrior.character50 if you mess with a tough oppoent you will pay the price.revenge
Superman wins
-Flash speed is overrated; he needed momentum and space to reach high speed. (Flash Comics)
- Flash is as slow as anyone when he is not on the Ground (Flash comics)
- Superman has raced flash (flash is faster, but like I said he need momentum and space)
- Flash has admitted that speed blitz could also hurt him if not done rite.
Originally posted by kgkg
Superman wins-Flash speed is overrated; he needed momentum and space to reach high speed. (Flash Comics)
- Flash is as slow as anyone when he is not on the Ground (Flash comics)
- Superman has raced flash (flash is faster, but like I said he need momentum and space)
- Flash has admitted that speed blitz could also hurt him if not done rite.
poor wally.
Originally posted by kgkg
Superman wins-Flash speed is overrated; he needed momentum and space to reach high speed. (Flash Comics)
- Flash is as slow as anyone when he is not on the Ground (Flash comics)
- Superman has raced flash (flash is faster, but like I said he need momentum and space)
- Flash has admitted that speed blitz could also hurt him if not done rite.
Originally posted by kgkg
Superman wins-Flash speed is overrated; he needed momentum and space to reach high speed. (Flash Comics)
- Flash is as slow as anyone when he is not on the Ground (Flash comics)
- Superman has raced flash (flash is faster, but like I said he need momentum and space)
- Flash has admitted that speed blitz could also hurt him if not done rite.
Superman requires just as much if not more momentum to reach high speeds. They "raced" not too long ago, and if Wally had decided to kick it up, Superman would have eaten his dust.
The being off the ground part isn't entirely true. He still HAS his speed, he just can't use it as he usually does (running). He could still deliver high speed attacks to Superman if Supes somehow managed to get Wally in the air.
And the speed blitzing, well, I think we can all agree that he's had just a little practice with that. I know he's said that if done incorrectly it could hurt him, but I personally have never seen him screw it up. If you've got an example of this, by all means.
I've got a general question for everyone: What exactly are the speed force bolts? That's the one thing that I haven't seen before.
Originally posted by nigel45
Superman requires just as much if not more momentum to reach high speeds. They "raced" not too long ago, and if Wally had decided to kick it up, Superman would have eaten his dust.The being off the ground part isn't entirely true. He still HAS his speed, he just can't use it as he usually does (running). He could still deliver high speed attacks to Superman if Supes somehow managed to get Wally in the air.
And the speed blitzing, well, I think we can all agree that he's had just a little practice with that. I know he's said that if done incorrectly it could hurt him, but I personally have never seen him screw it up. If you've got an example of this, by all means.
I've got a general question for everyone: What exactly are the speed force bolts? That's the one thing that I haven't seen before.
-“The being off the ground part isn't entirely true.” ( I didn't make this up , I got this rite from flash’s mouth he said when am on the air he is at the mercy of gravity , not my opinion)
-ok 🙂
The point is supes is going to get few hits, he can easily level the ground they are battling, send him in the air and break his bones.
Flash had trouble with Grood.
Supes is
Fast - not as fast as Flash, but fast enough to make a difference.
Strong - flash is human strength.
And lastly he can fly  flash won’t be doing much there.
etc.
Originally posted by kgkg
Yes the point was Flash cannot just kill anyone with beyond light speed (or close to it) it requires time and space.(same for supes , but unlike flash supes doesn’t even need speed due to all the other power at his disposal)-“The being off the ground part isn't entirely true.” ( I didn't make this up , I got this rite from flash’s mouth he said when am on the air he is at the mercy of gravity , not my opinion)
-ok 🙂
The point is supes is going to get few hits, he can easily level the ground they are battling, send him in the air and break his bones.
Flash had trouble with Grood.
Supes is
Fast - not as fast as Flash, but fast enough to make a difference.
Strong - flash is human strength.And lastly he can fly  flash won’t be doing much there.
etc.
The high velocity mass punch was effective against Zum, but I don't think it would have the same effect on Superman.
How will Superman hit Flash? If Wally was an idiot, and he ran up and tried to attack Superman a million times, of course he'll get knocked out. But why would he do that?