Originally posted by jinzin
you REALLY don't pay attention to arguments you don't like do you?wolverine's healing factor and damage soak is TIMES stronger right now than it was back then...
you have one example and you somehow think that over-rides the MULTIPLE examples that prove you wrong.. you're wrong get it through your head.. his damage soak did even help him in that example you're talking about... he was first thrown to the ground with earth shattering force... let me ask you, for hulk who throws random objects into escape velocity, throwing wolverine who he decided he hated and had to smash at the ground... did that not effect wolverine in your mind?
also consider wolverine was completely chained up when that happened and recovering from being gassed unconcious... the guy's damage soak is superb.. to even survive that throw into the ground was a miracle by the standard you're putting logan at.. 🙄
and once again you're bringing in real world logic.. sorry but that doesn't work here in 616 where an incalculable number of superfast spiderman punches to wolverine's head DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to knock him out... nothing at all...
no it's embraced by his bushido training.. his bushido training emphasis that he holds back the beast within.... when he doesn't... well you have vol. 1 and 2.. tell me what happened to roughouse when wolverine stopped holding back?
wha did he say specifically about the berserker in him?
he holds back.. get over it...
look above.
wolverine's abilities are as offensive as they are defensive to it kinda does dictate him to fight back.. he wasn't.. thus he wasn't using his full abilities.. AND sas got the jump on him from behind.. AGAIN.. AND it did nothing.
hell sas even commented on it later after puck hit logan in the nuts.. commenting about how logan stood up to the beating sas gave him with surprise..
like i said the evidence where he does hold back against people WAY overwhelms your pitiful examples... and again holding back is embraced by his bushido code...
he WAS feral while fighting wolverine.. what part of that aren't you getting?!?!
"i don't like it, it didn't happen"
yet CIS prevents this so.. it really doesn't matter.
I didn't say he holds back all the time.. 😕
I said he holds back more often than not.. and he does... I can't believe that you don't think wolverine had enough time to stab his face... 🤨
Correct, I never said otherwise. However, the healing factor doesn't stop you from being knocked out. It helps you to heal your wounds but if there is extensive damage he would be knocked out. How is that hard to understand? his skelton helps to soak up the initial damage and the healing factor helps to heal the damage caused. Hell Puck with one punch leveled Wolverine with a punch to the balls, his healing factor didn't soak that up. Your arrogant attempts show weakness as your grasping for things which are irrelevant and as I said several times I suggest you check the respect thread for feats of enraged Sasquatch can do. He easily killed people stronger than Wolverine.
Hulk was knocked out uncouncious from the same magic as well and Wolverine easily broke out of the chains with his claws. How does that prove he has a high damage quota? A mountain destroying punch knocked him out, which Sasquatch is capable of especially in his rage induced state. Yeah because the feats Sasquatch has done is comparable to being tossed to the ground, listen to what your saying I never made the claim Wolverine didn't have good durability but the same punches Hulk used on Wolverine have knocked him out before.
Yeah I guess Wolverine surving a nuke is realistic too 🙄
No it's not, I explained what Bushido is down by below. It's basically treat everything as you expect it to be your last thing you do in life. Holding back goes against the code . What issue is it? since I don't have them all memorized.
Those were just a few examples from just one issue of Alpha Flight, he went all out against Alpha Flight, Guardian multiple times, frig this is ridiciouls Wolverine doesn't hold back as often as your saying. No it's not from Wolverine's own words "A warrior has to be hard, you have to live without doubts or remorse and every act you do in life should be treated as if it's your final one. Self-doubt doesn't go with a warrior, being a warrior calls for self-control at the same time it calls for abandoning yourself" holding back goes against the code.
It's flipping peaceful Wendigo, and he was seriously injuired before he was fighting Wolverine by a bullet hitting an artery. As said by Wolverine he couldn't continue the fight long or he would be in serious trouble. The fact that he backs off from a fight tells you right there he isn't even close to be a Wendigo. Plus show me he was class 100, as Wendigo's strength level increase/decreases.
Rules of the board prevent events like that from being used. So just because you want to use it and you can't doesn't mean
Why would character induced stupidity prevent Tanaraq from being released? Remember the boards rules state the person is at full strength
Which is wrong, because I have countless examples where he uses his full skill on people but doesn't kill them. Him holding back at all goes against his Bushido way. No, I'm saying prior to all that Wolverine didn't have any time to do anything else. Your making it seem like Wolverine could get smacked around all day without even raising an eyebrow. Until Sasquatch lifted him upside down he didn't leave Wolverine to be able to attack. Then after he placed the grub on Sasquatch, he proceeded to continue the beat down on him.
