Originally posted by Battlehammer
actauly wolverine cut a good portion of thing face away before
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You Wolverine FANgirls are hilarious... Your 2 claims to fame with wolverine vs The THING is...
#1 The face slash... Which Wolverine was berserker slashing away at sues force field and Ben came up from behind him and was trying to talk him down from doing so, and then Wolverine in his said berserker mode turned and slashed Ben in the face...(cheap shot) They weren't fighting...Ben wasn't expecting Wolverine to do that and that's the only way that ever happened. Ben's no dummy and has fought with and against Logan in the past he wouldn't allow him to get near his face in a real fight.
#2 That "Enemy of the State" run is commonly known as one of the worst written series of books in comic history. Anything done in that book should be thought of as almost a What IF run.
Do I believe Wolverine can cut Ben yes I do.
Do I believe Ben can knock out wolverine with one blow yes I do.
Wolverine is a "slightly" better fighter...that's it. Not by much. IMO (They were shown to be equals in their mini series while in the military).
Ben has CL100 strength.
Ben's Strength differential over Wolverine is much, much greater than Wolverine's edge in fighting.
Ben wins the majority 7/10
Ben would know what Wolverine would have to to do to hurt him... And Wolverine would have to be close to do it.. And as soon as he got close enough Ben would get his big mitts on him and he would put the clamps down on Wolverine, and then put Wolverine down for good by tearing him in half like HULK did (I know it was Ult toons but, still should be able to be done) or bashing in his head like WWH did. Either one of those ways should be done with out much problem. Does Wolverine get a slice or two in there before the lights go out? Probably but, nothing that stops Ben in his tracks and stops him from completing his mission.
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Originally posted by Tony StarkYou calling anyone a fanboy or fangirl is the height of hypocrisy.
🙄You Wolverine FANgirls are hilarious... Your 2 claims to fame with wolverine vs The THING is...
#1 The face slash... Which Wolverine was berserker slashing away at sues force field and Ben came up from behind him and was trying to talk him down from doing so, and then Wolverine in his said berserker mode turned and slashed Ben in the face...(cheap shot) They weren't fighting...Ben wasn't expecting Wolverine to do that and that's the only way that ever happened. Ben's no dummy and has fought with and against Logan in the past he wouldn't allow him to get near his face in a real fight.
#2 That "Enemy of the State" run is commonly known as one of the worst written series of books in comic history. Anything done in that book should be thought of as almost a What IF run.
Do I believe Wolverine can cut Ben yes I do.
Do I believe Ben can knock out wolverine with one blow yes I do.
Wolverine is a "slightly" better fighter...that's it. Not by much. IMO (They were shown to be equals in their mini series while in the military).
Ben has CL100 strength.Ben's Strength differential over Wolverine is much, much greater than Wolverine's edge in fighting.
Ben wins the majority 7/10
Ben would know what Wolverine would have to to do to hurt him... And Wolverine would have to be close to do it.. And as soon as he got close enough Ben would get his big mitts on him and he would put the clamps down on Wolverine, and then put Wolverine down for good by tearing him in half like HULK did (I know it was Ult toons but, still should be able to be done) or bashing in his head like WWH did. Either one of those ways should be done with out much problem. Does Wolverine get a slice or two in there before the lights go out? Probably but, nothing that stops Ben in his tracks and stops him from completing his mission.
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Originally posted by Tony Stark
🙄You Wolverine FANgirls are hilarious... Your 2 claims to fame with wolverine vs The THING is...
#1 The face slash... Which Wolverine was berserker slashing away at sues force field and Ben came up from behind him and was trying to talk him down from doing so, and then Wolverine in his said berserker mode turned and slashed Ben in the face...(cheap shot) They weren't fighting...Ben wasn't expecting Wolverine to do that and that's the only way that ever happened. Ben's no dummy and has fought with and against Logan in the past he wouldn't allow him to get near his face in a real fight.
#2 That "Enemy of the State" run is commonly known as one of the worst written series of books in comic history. Anything done in that book should be thought of as almost a What IF run.
Do I believe Wolverine can cut Ben yes I do.
Do I believe Ben can knock out wolverine with one blow yes I do.
Wolverine is a "slightly" better fighter...that's it. Not by much. IMO (They were shown to be equals in their mini series while in the military).
Ben has CL100 strength.Ben's Strength differential over Wolverine is much, much greater than Wolverine's edge in fighting.
Ben wins the majority 7/10
Ben would know what Wolverine would have to to do to hurt him... And Wolverine would have to be close to do it.. And as soon as he got close enough Ben would get his big mitts on him and he would put the clamps down on Wolverine, and then put Wolverine down for good by tearing him in half like HULK did (I know it was Ult toons but, still should be able to be done) or bashing in his head like WWH did. Either one of those ways should be done with out much problem. Does Wolverine get a slice or two in there before the lights go out? Probably but, nothing that stops Ben in his tracks and stops him from completing his mission.
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Originally posted by Battlehammer
most pathetic post I have ever seen. I will tear this post apart later
You obviously don't proof read your posts before you submit them then because every new post of yours over comes the last one in being the most pathetic... Until your next one but of course...
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BTW you had stated in an earlier version of one of your pathetic posts "that DOOM healed Ben's face" from Wolverines (cheap shot) slash. Which I have to again quote yet another of your pathetic posts asking someone the question "Don't you even read the comics" Because your info then was like it is always INCORRECT... It was Hyperstorm that healed Ben's face NOT DOOM.
Please refrain from stating things about comics that you have not actually read or please stop clearly making up stories to support your futile arguments.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
🙄You Wolverine FANgirls are hilarious... Your 2 claims to fame with wolverine vs The THING is...
Originally posted by Tony Stark
:#1 The face slash... Which Wolverine was berserker slashing away at sues force field and Ben came up from behind him and was trying to talk him down from doing so, and then Wolverine in his said berserker mode turned and slashed Ben in the face...(cheap shot) They weren't fighting...Ben wasn't expecting Wolverine to do that and that's the only way that ever happened. Ben's no dummy and has fought with and against Logan in the past he wouldn't allow him to get near his face in a real fight.
Wolverine went after sue and thing hit Logan from behind. He was trying to fight him and he was trying to take logan out. He smashed Logan to the ground and Logan reflexs took over and he slashed Bens face.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
:#2 That "Enemy of the State" run is commonly known as one of the worst written series of books in comic history. Anything done in that book should be thought of as almost a What IF run.
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Originally posted by Tony Stark
Do I believe Ben can knock out wolverine with one blow yes I do.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Wolverine is a "slightly" better fighter...that's it. Not by much. IMO (They were shown to be equals in their mini series while in the military).
Ben has CL100 strength.
Slighty better? Here are just a few feats Ben could not hope to do.
Wolverine Enemy Of The State Part 4 of 6 issue 29: Wolverine fights 15,000 hand ninjas. Logan shows off amazing skills and does not even take a single hit which just shows Logan level of skills when he puts his mind on it.
Marvel Adventures The Avengers issue 3: Wolverine free Captain America who is restrained by cutting the restraints so fast that a robot could not even track the movement. He also cut it with out evening cutting Captain America which would require amazing skill. Captain America even comments on it.
Wolverine Origins issue 7: Wolverine shows his knowledge of pressure points by jabbing a doctor in the throat killing him in seconds
Logan also trains others in how to fight.
X-Men Phoenix WarSong issue 1: Logan shows his mastery over the Bo staff while training Phoebe how to fight.
Wolverine Origins issue 9: Wolverine is shown to have trained Black Widow in h2h combat. Who would spank Thing in h2h skill.
Here Logan displays one of his many mastered styles to kitty
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Here are some skilled opponents wolverine has defeat through skill which Thing could never achieve through skill.
Uncanny X-Men issue 450: Wolverine is attack by X-23 who is a female clone of him. She was trained to defeat him how ever in there fight through skill a lone Logan defeats her rather easily.
Wolverine Origins issue 4: Wolverine gives Capt a blood clot.
Wolverine SoulTaker 4 of 5: Wolverine battles at least 8 samurai from the past said to be the fiercest of all and extremely skilled. They are even harder now because they are undead and back by magical powers making them harder to kill. One of them takes a stab to the chest by Logan and gets right back up. Logan defeats all 8 with out taking a single hit showing amazing skills.
I have far more, but I did not see the point in drowning you in evidence.
Logan is stated to have mastered every fighting style imaginable. Thing is stated to have been skilled in boxing and wrestling……..
Yet you think thing is only slightly less skilled then Logan.
Logan experience dwarfs that of thing at least 4 times.
Logan military training a lone is beyond things let alone his training by masters such as Ogun and so forth.
Logan is a top tier fighter……….thing on the other hand is lucky to be 3rd tier and that may be pushing it.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Ben's Strength differential over Wolverine is much, much greater than Wolverine's edge in fighting.
Logan has far superior combat speed and could speed blitz him as shown below
Wolverine Battle Ground issue 68:
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Logan also has far superior reflexes
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Logan catching a bullet
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Logan also has far faster hand movement speed
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Logan is Ben superior in pretty much every area.
Logan can even take more punches from Thing then Thing could take stabs from Logan.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Ben wins the majority 7/10
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Ben would know what Wolverine would have to to do to hurt him... And Wolverine would have to be close to do it..
Originally posted by Tony Stark
And as soon as he got close enough Ben would get his big mitts on him and he would put the clamps down on Wolverine,
Originally posted by Tony Stark
and then put Wolverine down for good by tearing him in half like HULK did (I know it was Ult toons but, still should be able to be done)
Originally posted by Tony Stark
or bashing in his head like WWH did. Either one of those ways should be done with out much problem. Does Wolverine get a slice or two in there before the lights go out? Probably but, nothing that stops Ben in his tracks and stops him from completing his mission.😎
The only reason Hulk was able to do that was because of a Healing Factor. Logan still Slashed Hulk many times and even stabbed Hulk in the arm. If Ben tries this move one slash will make his arm useless.
Also the picture you keep showing is not 616 and ahs nothing to do with this debate nor is it usable evidence
Originally posted by Battlehammer
........really..........I think not.I can't wait for your response which will likly never come.
And why wouldn't I respond to your hyperbally? The answer is for no known reason would I not.
Although you'll have to wait for my full response sometime later this morning.
Get some rest son... yours like wolverines beat down will commence soon enough.
Originally posted by Tony StarkThe "hyperbally" instead of "hyperbole" was a joke, yes? If so, I don't know that it was nice.
And why wouldn't I respond to your hyperbally? The answer is for no known reason would I not.Although you'll have to wait for my full response sometime later this morning.
Get some rest son... yours like wolverines beat down will commence soon enough.
Just wanted to say that I like Thing for this fight. Wolverine can hurt Ben, but Ben just as easily has the strength to KO Wolverine. Showing high feats for Logan and only low feats for the Thing won't change my mind. Mamma Grimm's boy takes this home.
Originally posted by Tony StarkPretty ironic that you would use that smilie immediately before writing a post as ridiculous as this one turned out to be..
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Originally posted by Tony Stark
You Wolverine FANgirls are hilarious...
Ah yes, petty insults in a pathetic attempt to validate yourself when your argument alone is clearly not enough..
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Your 2 claims to fame with wolverine vs The THING is...#1 The face slash... Which Wolverine was berserker slashing away at sues force field and Ben came up from behind him and was trying to talk him down from doing so, and then Wolverine in his said berserker mode turned and slashed Ben in the face...(cheap shot) They weren't fighting...Ben wasn't expecting Wolverine to do that and that's the only way that ever happened. Ben's no dummy and has fought with and against Logan in the past he wouldn't allow him to get near his face in a real fight.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
#2 That "Enemy of the State" run is commonly known as one of the worst written series of books in comic history. Anything done in that book should be thought of as almost a What IF run.
Oh please, whom other than yourself thinks that? Literally?
Oh should it? Because it completely debunks your idea that Thing has a chance of winning this fight?
How about no...
What about X4? Wolverine had Thing dead to rights TWICE in that book alone.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
#Do I believe Wolverine can cut Ben yes I do.
Do I believe Ben can knock out wolverine with one blow yes I do.
That's only because your ignorant as hell.. If a water soaked Namor couldn't do it, and World War Hulk couldn't do it, Thing sure as hell isn't doing it.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Wolverine is a "slightly" better fighter...that's it. Not by much. IMO (They were shown to be equals in their mini series while in the military).
Ben has CL100 strength.
Oh please, Wolverine's dismantled Shang Chi in four panels, took down Cap while weakened, Disarmed a demonized Ogun with ease, Dodged or evaded every attack stick threw at him, outmaneuvered Elektra..
Thing doesn't have feats of skill that even COME CLOSE to Logan's. Nor does his estimated fighting ability attributed by handboks OR bios.. you're either stupid or INSANE to insinuate otherwise..
Thing's body isn't even acrobatic enough in his human form to know half the tricks that Logan can do much less the fact that Logan's been trained by far more versatile teachers and organizations than Thing's ever evn thought about..
And we're not even considering the ancient and forgotten techniques of the 13 styles that Ogun tought Wolverine.
Originally posted by Tony StarkBWAHA!!! My ass! Dude, Logan proved to have a better damage soak against WWh than Thing, Hercules, or She Hulk..
Ben's Strength differential over Wolverine is much, much greater than Wolverine's edge in fighting.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Ben wins the majority 7/10
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Ben would know what Wolverine would have to to do to hurt him... And Wolverine would have to be close to do it.. And as soon as he got close enough Ben would get his big mitts on him and he would put the clamps down on Wolverine, and then put Wolverine down for good by tearing him in half like HULK did (I know it was Ult toons but, still should be able to be done) or bashing in his head like WWH did. Either one of those ways should be done with out much problem. Does Wolverine get a slice or two in there before the lights go out? Probably but, nothing that stops Ben in his tracks and stops him from completing his mission.😎
PffttttBWAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
Logan's so much faster than ben it's not even funny.. and then so much faster after that that's funny again..
Ben grabbing Wolverine? Not without getting stabbed or his face ripped off..
Bashing his head in Like WWH? Yeah if he had Hulk's healing factor maybe... without it, Ben would go down from the 1st, 2nd, OR 3rd shots that Wolverine landed on Hulk before he even got snatched in the first place.. If he DID grab Logan, Logan would just rip his arm to shreds like he was doing to Hulk, only without a healing factor, or WWH's superior durability, Thing would bleed out if not get his armed completely hacked off. Just like Wolvie did to Sasquatch in Exiles.
And HA! If non canon feats like Ultimate Wolverine, or Big Town are the best forms of evidence you can come up with in this thread, then you're argument's are as valid as your logic and opinions.. and that's not a compliment. 😐
