Originally posted by Jyppe
Depending on whether Thing can BFR him, and I'm pretty sure Thing could catch Wolverine at least once out of ten. He does have pretty big hands after all, and is trained in "martial arts". I bet he punches faster than Pre-PlanetHulk Hulk, as Hulk wasn't trained in any kind of fighting, thus he propably doesn't know the proper technique.I'm not sure if this matters though. Thing's still quite a "big" hero, other than being a lard ass I mean. Maybe it's his so called heart that would grant him a victory over Wolverine, I dunno.
Can't you settle for a majority?
Besides, last time Hulk Thunder Clapped Wolverine (6 Hour war I think, the one which was oddly drawn) He wasn't trying to hit Wolvie with the clap AFAIK. They were digging something up and then Hulk got all angry about it and slammed his hands together. They weren't fighting AFAIK.
Could be wrong though
I could see Thing getting his mitts on Logan even more than that, I just don't see most fight ending well for him regardless..
hmmm.. I duno about the punching speed thing.. I mean, I know that if we were talking repeating punches, then yeah technique would play a part in punching speed, but in terms of just random fists flying I would venture to say Hulk's faster still.
Oh I already did settle for a majority... I just wanted to call upon the extremely reasonable doubt for Thing winning any of these fights much less the majority... I'd say Wolverine pulls a legit 7-8/1o over Thing.
I'm not so sure that Savage Hulk or anyone for that matter can really direct the soundwaves produced by the thunderclap, especially in such a confined area as Logan and Hulk were in... so.. I'm not sure if that hold water..
But there was another ocassion where Hulk used it again against Logan and it did nothing more than send Logan back a bit... didn't disable him in any way though.
Originally posted by BUSTER1
Sorry Kid Kurdy but i disagree with that last comment. Whenever the Thing took on the Savage Hulk he was always shown to have the edge in speed over Hulk. He usually got more punches in, despite the Hulk's size and reach advantage, b'cos of his faster reflexes. Ben Grimm is a very capable fighter even in human form, having grown up as a gang lead in a rough part of town. If Ben wasn't faster than Savage Hulk he would've been demolished very quickly in their fights, as Hulk has huge advantages in strength, durability and stamina. Instead, he always gave him a good fight, although he usually lost. I'm not saying this b'cos i'm a Thing fanboy, as the Hulk is my favourite character
Thats a good point. You should see the fight with him and Sasquatch. He defintely had the upperhand in H2H and showed real toughness. Im thinking Thing should not have gone down so easily as he did against Wolverine.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Thats a good point. You should see the fight with him and Sasquatch. He defintely had the upperhand in H2H and showed real toughness. Im thinking Thing should not have gone down so easily as he did against Wolverine.
Getting stabbed and getting punched are two different things.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes thats true but I think Tony was stating that Thing was faster and better at H2H than the Hulk, so to an, extent it could be argued that Thing could do better than the Hulk if he fought Wolverine.
Better at H2H? Maybe because of his strength yes, but not more skilled.
Hulk faster than Thing with punches? I think its Hulk but I can't really say for sure.
Originally posted by Mr Majestic
Better at H2H? Maybe because of his strength yes, but not more skilled.Hulk faster than Thing with punches? I think its Hulk but I can't really say for sure.
Lets put it this way Thing constantly ahs to fight much stronger opponents, obvoulsy has to to be faster and more skilled than these opponents. This was shown when he foght sasquatch. Of course sas is not as good as Wolverine at H2H but you get my point...I hope.
The point remains that;
The Thing, even if he's faster than the Hulk, is NOT faster in a fight than Wolverine.
The Thing, even if he's more skilled than the Hulk, is NOT more skilled than Wolverine.
The Thing, even if he's been upgraded, can NOT deal more damage per strike to Logan than Logan can dish out to Ben.
And, because of the two statements preceding that one, Logan will be scoring a lot more strikes than Ben will.
Originally posted by SoljerSimple fact. 👆
The point remains that;The Thing, even if he's faster than the Hulk, is NOT faster in a fight than Wolverine.
The Thing, even if he's more skilled than the Hulk, is NOT more skilled than Wolverine.
The Thing, even if he's been upgraded, can NOT deal more damage per strike to Logan than Logan can dish out to Ben.
And, because of the two statements preceding that one, Logan will be scoring a lot more strikes than Ben will.
Originally posted by Soljer
The point remains that;The Thing, even if he's faster than the Hulk, is NOT faster in a fight than Wolverine.
The Thing, even if he's more skilled than the Hulk, is NOT more skilled than Wolverine.
The Thing, even if he's been upgraded, can NOT deal more damage per strike to Logan than Logan can dish out to Ben.
And, because of the two statements preceding that one, Logan will be scoring a lot more strikes than Ben will.
Yeah I know...
Originally posted by Alfheim
Of course sas is not as good as Wolverine at H2H but you get my point...I hope.
My argument was that Thing should have lasted longer when fighting Wolverine, not that he should have won.
Originally posted by Creshosk
No, I'm saying your post was a wank post that really didn't help things one way or the other.
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Oh like this one...
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Boy I'm glad you showed us the light... It's very much a decided fact now... MORON.
Cause i know you've never posted something just saying you agreed or disagreed with someone. 😆