Wolverine vs The Thing

Originally posted by masterbruce
no he wouldnt. he was flying in a STRAIGHT line. you're grasping here...

So prove he was flaying at maximum speed, comeon, burden opf proof is on your shoulders.

You wanna talk about grasping at straws?

"Ben has fast hand speed, Faster than logan."

http://i83.imagethrust.com/i/1294281/wolverine6818.jpg

Or how about we revist your "Anybody who disagrees with a baseball bat to the nuts taking out wolverine is a fanboy"?

Yeah, I'm the one grasping when you're desperite to give ben a win any way you can.

Originally posted by JasonK4
But, Grimm's faster than an arrow !

Ben iz totally faster he haz teh boxing an a big haeart! He not stop for anything!

Originally posted by Creshosk
No, that'd be you...

So prove he was flaying at maximum speed, comeon, burden opf proof is on your shoulders.

ok, i'll prove it. they were CHASING an enemy. You think IM would slow down and miss his target just so he has Ben's company? no way. IM was jetting full speed to catch the villain, and Ben was keeping up...that's a damn impressive speed feat.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I noes and Short Bow Arrow > Bullet

Ben iz totally faster he haz teh boxing an a big haeart! He not stop for anything!

Originally posted by JasonK4
But, Grimm's faster than an arrow !

Originally posted by masterbruce
take a look and examine how close the arrow was shot from

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/dprfla/wolverine34.jpg

Oh yes, an arrow is faster than mutliple bullets! ben haz boxing and heart!

A baseball bat to the nuts will take wolverine out, cause he's not in pain constantly and has never dealt with pain before!

Originally posted by masterbruce
ok, i'll prove it. they were CHASING an enemy. You think IM would slow down and miss his target just so he has Ben's company? no way. IM was jetting full speed to catch the villain, and Ben was keeping up...that's a damn impressive speed feat.

So no, you restating yourself proves nothing... Give us a speed that he was climbing at.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
The fighting skills ratings are tough to go with and it's dependent on the book, I've seen Wolverine from a 6 to a 7 which IMO either would be fine. There are many more skilled than him but not as many as he's more skill than. While I've never seen Ben at anything but a 5 which I'm OK with too. For being a Brick (kinda no pun intended) he's at the top of the list. Does that mean the a 3 can never hit or evade a 5...Or a 5 to a 7 not at all. So people who say Wolverine's too fast and agile for Ben to hit aren't being honest with themselves or the post. Ben's caught, hit and evaded blows from characters much faster than Logan numerous times...(Namor, Gladiator, BB, Spidey, SS, Champion...etc)

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Untrue.

I've very rarely seen Wolverine as anything but 7. Especially in the past decade.

And he IS more skilled than almost anyone else in Marvel. He's peers with the likes of Shang Chi, Captain America, and the only people that are likely better than him are Gamora's ilk.

Oh, and comparing a 5 to a 7 IS simply leaps and bounds here.

We're talking about a system that ranks someone's fighting skill on an arbitrary level of one to seven. Everyone from individuals completely ignorant of fighting to the very best in the marvel Universe.

A five is recorded as 'the master of a single form of combat' - in Ben's case, boxing.

A seven is master of, effectively, all forms of combat.

Do you have any idea how much of a jump that is?!

Originally posted by masterbruce
no, but it did show Thing beating guys much tougher than the canuck though.

So, do we wanna bring Logan's highest victories into this? Yeah, didn't think so. Thing ain't got shit on half of them.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Thing's superspeed feats

faster than an arrow!

climbs as fast as Iron Man flies!

Because Iron Man was clearly flying at mach ten in that scan.

Iron Man has slowed down to a street leveller's pace on many occasions - *yawn* waiting.

Originally posted by masterbruce
fast enough to grab and land hits on shang chi!

Nice example of someone that doesn't even care to fight Grimm making him look like a total moron. Why? Because he was faster and more skilled. 🙂.

You're kinda retarded Bruce, but that's alright; I honestly think you just play the fool to get a rise out of people.

Originally posted by Soljer
So, do we wanna bring Logan's highest victories into this? Yeah, didn't think so. Thing ain't got shit on half of them.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Thing knocked out Galactus... 😐
Incredibly weak, but still... 😐

Logan had a comic entitled "Galactus vs. Wolverine"

Oh, and Galactus was shown eating planets.

Guess who won?

Originally posted by Soljer
Logan had a comic entitled "Galactus vs. Wolverine"

Oh, and Galactus was shown eating planets.

Guess who won?

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Thing knocked out Galactus... 😐
Incredibly weak, but still... 😐

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Originally posted by Creshosk
And wolverine has stabbed Thanos, who had a showing of blasting galactus pretty hard, And stabbing phoenix, whos weaker daughter managed to basically one shot galactus as well.

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The rest is ABC logic. And Thanos's blasts, don't reflect on his durability... in fact, nobody's blasts do.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Even taking that feat into account, it did teh nofing to Thanos.

The rest is ABC logic. And Thanos's blasts, don't reflect on his durability... in fact, nobody's blasts do.

Arrow >bullet

Thing has heart, so he wins!

Originally posted by Creshosk
I forget that boxing>multpile martial arts.

Arrow >bullet

Thing has heart, so he wins!

Now, git back to the drawing board.

Also, Champs basically a boxer, and he out skilled Mantis... 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Soljer
Untrue.

I've very rarely seen Wolverine as anything but 7. Especially in the past decade.

And he IS more skilled than almost anyone else in Marvel. He's peers with the likes of Shang Chi, Captain America, and the only people that are likely better than him are Gamora's ilk.

Oh, and comparing a 5 to a 7 IS simply leaps and bounds here.

We're talking about a system that ranks someone's fighting skill on an arbitrary level of one to seven. Everyone from individuals completely ignorant of fighting to the very best in the marvel Universe.

A five is recorded as 'the master of a single form of combat' - in Ben's case, boxing.

A seven is master of, effectively, all forms of combat.

Do you have any idea how much of a jump that is?!

So, do we wanna bring Logan's highest victories into this? Yeah, didn't think so. Thing ain't got shit on half of them.

Because Iron Man was clearly flying at mach ten in that scan.

Iron Man has slowed down to a street leveller's pace on many occasions - *yawn* waiting.

Nice example of someone that doesn't even care to fight Grimm making him look like a total moron. Why? Because he was faster and more skilled. 🙂.

You're kinda retarded Bruce, but that's alright; I honestly think you just play the fool to get a rise out of people.

jawdrop

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Even taking that feat into account, it did teh nofing to Thanos.

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. http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1935/wolvcutsthanostc6.jpg

Got Wolverine Respect thread? 😛

Originally posted by jinzin
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. http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1935/wolvcutsthanostc6.jpg

Originally posted by jinzin
jawdrop

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Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
And almost hit him!

Another thing ah don't get, is how Brucemaster zero gives Thing the win, but Namor loses 10/10... considering Namor is stronger, has a healing factor, faster, a better fighter, and can fly, as opposed to Ben, who might... might be more durable, and has more "heart".

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Ummm... Not so much.

Namor can fly yes... Is faster yes...

Namor isn't stronger, a better fighter (rated as a 3), more durable nor does he have more fortitude.

FTR Namor should crush Wolverine also.