Wolverine vs The Thing

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
You see, I was talking about the canon comics.
Plus, I fo shizzle know that Thanos's durability isn't<<<<<Galactus's machine.

Well I mean, if you want to get technical, that crossover has been referenced as having happened by both universes. 😬

Originally posted by Soljer
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I've become so used to your badgering that it's almost shocking to see you actually defending Wolverine for a change. 😛

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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Ummm... Not so much.

Namor can fly yes... Is faster yes...

Namor isn't stronger, a better fighter (rated as a 3), more durable nor does he have more fortitude.

FTR Namor should crush Wolverine also.

Your entire arguments against Wolverine hinge on neglecting facts, omitting evidence and then fantasizing your own conclusions.

BTW: Namor fresh from water IS STRONGER, IS FASTER, and HAS FLIGHT. 😐

Originally posted by jinzin

I've become so used to your badgering that it's almost shocking to see you actually defending Wolverine for a change. 😛

It's hard to keep my mind focused on bashing Wolverine when I'm surrounded by utter ignorance.

I'll try harder next time. 🙁.

Originally posted by jinzin
Well I mean, if you want to get technical, that crossover has been referenced as having happened by both universes. 😬

I've become so used to your badgering that it's almost shocking to see you actually defending Wolverine for a change. 😛

Even though he's ALSO failed to do that on multiple occasions?
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Your entire arguments against Wolverine hinge on neglecting facts, omitting evidence and then fantasizing your own conclusions.

BTW: Namor fresh from water IS STRONGER, IS FASTER, and HAS
FLIGHT. 😐

Current Ben and current Namor have yet to tussle, and it's really been quite some time since Namor has shown any true advantage to Ben in strength (60's)

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Ahh I see.. so apparently Ben has been tossing aside thousands of tons of ships lately.. 🙄

If by thousands you mean eighty, sure.

Originally posted by Soljer
If by thousands you mean eighty, sure.

you actually believe that Ben can only lift 80 tons?

He's definitely a cl100, perhaps low...but he's definitely beyong 100 tons in strength

Originally posted by masterbruce
you actually believe that Ben can only lift 80 tons?

He's definitely a cl100, perhaps low...but he's definitely beyong 100 tons in strength

I could be wrong however.

I'm getting the feeling that's not quite what he meant lol.

here ben's lifting something that looks well over 100 tons

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
[b]Lifts fully loaded tanker (about 110,000 tons without any load, nearly 200,000 with load)

Here

All of these feats were done by old school “Class 85” Namor. [/B]

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
If I read the conversation right, he's saying Namor didn't recently toss thousands of tons, just eighty...

I could be wrong however.

You're Canadian, so we'll forgive you.

Originally posted by masterbruce
here ben's lifting something that looks well over 100 tons

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/441/scan0004jc5.jpg

http://westernrailinc.com/loci14.htm

(7*2500) /2000 + 130 = 138.75 tons if the tank is full.

Originally posted by Creshosk
100 tons for something like that's a pretty light estimate.

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/441/scan0004jc5.jpg

http://westernrailinc.com/loci14.htm

(7*2500) /2000 + 130 = 138.75 tons if the tank is full.

also the train is hollow inside for passengers....that thing Ben was holding is not

I estimate that piece Ben was lifting to be over 500 tons

why do you assume/estimate that?

You're acting like it's a solid chunk of metal.. but isn't it a machine wouldn't it stand to reason that it's fairly hollow.. and to be honest, Ben's been shown training with 100 tons written right there for reference and stressing himself doing it.. I really don't think 500 tons is anything but pure speculation on your part.

Originally posted by jinzin
why do you assume/estimate that?

You're acting like it's a solid chunk of metal.. but isn't it a machine wouldn't it stand to reason that it's fairly hollow..

actually when you build stuff, you try to make it as small as possible so it would fit in the smallest space...you don't make it hollow so it takes up more room than necessary

Its pretty safe to say that machine was not hollow

Originally posted by masterbruce
the thing Ben is lifting looks much bigger than that train (about 4-8x bigger...you have to factor that Ben is bigger than the girl for correct reference)

also the train is hollow inside for passengers....that thing Ben was holding is not

I estimate that piece Ben was lifting to be over 500 tons

Wondra, who's 5'5" lifted the freight train engine that was between 130-138.75 tons. and as you said the object is larger, especially when comparing Thing to Wondra's sizes.

So 100 tons is a light estimate. A higher number would be more accurate.

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's why I said 100 tons is a pretty light estimate.

Wondra, who's 5'5" lifted the freight train engine that was between 130-138.75 tons. and as you said the object is larger, especially when comparing Thing to Wondra's sizes.

So 100 tons is a light estimate. A higher number would be more accurate.

yeah I realized your point after I posted

Originally posted by masterbruce
actually when you build stuff, you try to make it as small as possible so it would fit in the smallest space...you don't make it hollow so it takes up more room than necessary

Well that really depends on what it is your building some machines need space to distribute pressure, heat, fluids properly

Originally posted by masterbruce
Its pretty safe to say that machine was not hollow

Originally posted by jinzin
Well that really depends on what it is your building some machines need space to distribute pressure, heat, fluids properly

I'm not saying it was hallow as an easter egg.. just that it wasn't "500 tons" thick.

I honestly can't see that machine being less than 300 tons even if it had hollowness.

Well.. there's a bit of a problem with the representation of the panels too.. in that last one it looks like part of the machine is touching the ground, meaning Thing's only supporting it, but on the other hand he looks like he's levitating off the ground which means he could fly lol..