Episode III or Batman Begins?

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Originally posted by Darth-x-Padme
I hate it wen people say hayden christensen who plays anakin skywalker (episodes II,III & VI) is a bad actor i think he's brilliant and he's just doing what he has to do!

And he doesn't do it very well...

I swear this thread will never die!

why is he a bad actor?

Originally posted by WindDancer
I think that because of the magnitude in difference between the two characters. One is an agressive alter ego of a rich man who wants to have justice in his beloved city. While mainting (sp?) his identity secret from others.

Which throws me back to Bale's performance in American Psycho which was also a challenging role of two very different characters. Funny, but in that film he also plays a rich millionare with a double indentity. Hmmm.......


but then I have to return to Austin Powers or as you jokingly said to The Nutty Professor: so the more characters you play in a movie, the better actor you are?
I fully disagree with this! So he shows he can do a veriaty of characters from an agressive one to one that's held back.... good, so what now?
Hayden is playing very held back too while in his sabrefights he is very aggressive, why doesn't THAT count?

he's a great actor devildodo whateva his name is, is just jealous

He is not a great actor in the film in question. In fact, he is quite a terrible actor in it...

Originally posted by yerssot
but then I have to return to Austin Powers or as you jokingly said to The Nutty Professor: so the more characters you play in a movie, the better actor you are?
I fully disagree with this! So he shows he can do a veriaty of characters from an agressive one to one that's held back.... good, so what now?
Hayden is playing very held back too while in his sabrefights he is very aggressive, why doesn't THAT count?

I don't know if you misunderstood or just not reading things here. What I said is this:

"Which throws me back to Bale's performance in American Psycho which was also a challenging role of two very different characters. Funny, but in that film he also plays a rich millionare with a double indentity."

Notice I said TWO (2) not Three, nor Multi characters. You're the one bringing the examples of Austin Powers to which I responded in a jestering manner with the Nutty Professor comment. Maybe you're too caught up in defending Hayden's acting skills or something that you missed my little gesture. But to the original comment I made earlier. Hayden, for me didn't do a great performance in ROTS. He may have done better roles in other movies. In AOTC and ROTS he just wasn't convincing enough. At least for me.

For an actor to play multiple roles is indeed a great task. But by no means that should be consider as great acting. If you want to take the fact that Hayden can swing around a stick behind a big green screen and looked agressive. Then by that same token Keanu did a great acting job in Revolutions. All he had to do is look agressive and kick things around. Great acting!

I think he's an a-list actor so up urs!

Is only a matter of opinion Darth-x-Padme. You think he's a great actor that's fine. I don't see him like that. I don't have anything agaisn't the guy period. Now, will he shine in other future roles?...that's a big possibility. The guy will eventually get more roles in the future.

Yeah like doing voices for cartoons. Just ask Mark Hamill.

Star Wars III of coarse duh, Batman is good, but Star Wars the a lot better.

The code is SWWAR

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Wars
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Originally posted by Darth-x-Padme
The code is SWWAR

Star
Wars
Will
Always
Rule

Unless its rated against batman begins...

Originally posted by WindDancer
I don't know if you misunderstood or just not reading things here. What I said is this:

"Which throws me back to Bale's performance in American Psycho which was also a challenging role of two very different characters. Funny, but in that film he also plays a rich millionare with a double indentity."

Notice I said TWO (2) not Three, nor Multi characters. You're the one bringing the examples of Austin Powers to which I responded in a jestering manner with the Nutty Professor comment. Maybe you're too caught up in defending Hayden's acting skills or something that you missed my little gesture. But to the original comment I made earlier. Hayden, for me didn't do a great performance in ROTS. He may have done better roles in other movies. In AOTC and ROTS he just wasn't convincing enough. At least for me.

For an actor to play multiple roles is indeed a great task. But by no means that should be consider as great acting. If you want to take the fact that Hayden can swing around a stick behind a big green screen and looked agressive. Then by that same token Keanu did a great acting job in Revolutions. All he had to do is look agressive and kick things around. Great acting!


I have to pick misunderstanding here...

well, after you mentioned the Nutty Professor I thought it would emphasise it better than Austin Powers; so I kept using that. I know you used it as a joke yeah, but I of course have to defend him seeing I'm a SW fan. 😉 I agree that in AOTC he wasn't always that great but I think for ROTS he did a lot better and did it most excellent (though the script was sometimes faulty)

Is Revolutions the second or the third one?
There's more to sabrefighting than swinging a stick around, if you would look at the AOTC DVD when they talk about the fighting (and it'll probably get lots of talk in the ROTS DVD too) you'll see that it's very tight coreographed and that as Hayden says on the AOTC DVD "a lot of anger is shown through the fighting style". That's my point: he shows his two sides but not through two characters.
Anyway, we can discuss this to death, we won't change our ideas or something.

Anyway, we can discuss this to death, we won't change our ideas or something

But is always interesting arguing with you. 🙁

An arguement should lead to somewhere.
You think Hayden wasn't good in AOTC and ROTS, I think he did very well in ROTS, period, nothing more to discuss since no one is going to get persuade.

I also thought Hayden was excellent in ROTS. He portrayed great facial expressions.

Originally posted by BlackC@t
I also thought Hayden was excellent in ROTS. He portrayed great facial expressions.

r u trying to be sarcastic

I was trying to figure that out myself.

Originally posted by yerssot
Not at all WD... not at all 😑
It's Star Wars, Christensen does what he has to do: play with restraint emotions, trying not to show any since Jedi can't show them. So it is very clear that he has to act differently than Nolan (the guy that played Batman, no?)

Well, but he played emotions...and he played the very suckful.......and Batman shouldn't show Emotuions either...and he portrayed Batman great, while Christensen never was a true Jedi....if at all it was kind of mentioned..but can anyone believe that from anything we saw from him?

Originally posted by yerssot
from what they tell you in ROTS, he was the hero of the clone wars. So if you pay attention to the dialogue you know he is one.

Actually no, we heard that he was a great fighter...a great Soldier....in no wayx a "True Hero" .....Anakins fall was not very deep.....he never was a Hero of the light side, and the only thing that brought any greatness to his fal was Ewan Mc Gregors outstanding acting......

Very Sad, that one of the greatest villains ever has now such a crappy story.....