Muay Thai or Boxing?

Uhh...why is everyone jumping on Muay Thai like it is the ultimate style.
Boxers have beaten Muay Thai artists before. Watch the fight between Mighty Mo(Boxing) and Remy Bonjasky(MT)

Boxing is just as respected in competition as Muay Thai is. Boxing is also regarded as the MOST EFFECTIVE punching style. ALL pro fighters cross train boxing to some extent. The same is not true for Muay Thai on the other hand. If anything, boxing is actually more essential than Muay Thai is by far.

I believe, as actual fights have shown, that boxing is equal to Muay Thai. It just depends on how you like to fight.

Why is there no "equal" option on the poll?

Originally posted by Scoobless
pffft.... even the girl Thai boxers don't punch like girls

🙄

Sure they do. Unless they crosstrained in boxing.

Truth is, the Thais have no punching skills in their arsenal. They favor the elbow. But as soon as muay thai boxers from Europe started beating thier asses with their superior boxing skills, the thais finally learned to incorporate boxing into their muay thai.

In Thailand there are now many boxing schools. Nowadays the thais don't even use thier original stance anymore. More often they use a boxing stance such as the southpaw.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Uhh...why is everyone jumping on Muay Thai like it is the ultimate style.
Boxers have beaten Muay Thai artists before. Watch the fight between Mighty Mo(Boxing) and Remy Bonjasky(MT)

Boxing is just as respected in competition as Muay Thai is. Boxing is also regarded as the MOST EFFECTIVE punching style. ALL pro fighters cross train boxing to some extent. The same is not true for Muay Thai on the other hand. If anything, boxing is actually more essential than Muay Thai is by far.

I believe, as actual fights have shown, that boxing is equal to Muay Thai. It just depends on how you like to fight.

Why is there no "equal" option on the poll?

I got news for you, Kaoklai knocked out Mighty Mo with a jumping thai roundhouse kick.

And I totally agree with what your saying about boxing.

Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
I got news for you, Kaoklai knocked out Mighty Mo with a jumping thai roundhouse kick.

And I totally agree with what your saying about boxing.

actually the end all beat all is the ancient form known as Muay Boran, but it's forbidden.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
actually the end all beat all is the ancient form known as Muay Boran, but it's forbidden.

Absolutely wrong.

The real reason why Muay Boran is not used is because the techniques within this art is not practical, ineffecient, and is very hard to pull off. The Thais knew this, so they came up with Muay Thai in the early 20th century.

So in reality, Muay Thai > Muay Boran.

Muay Boran is nothing more than a rehash of ancient techniques so it can be preserved. If you want to be a martial arts purist, study Muay Boran. If you want to be a fighter, study Muay Thai.

muay boran is muay thai, the difference is that there are several strikes and techniques not included in muay thai because they are too dangerous. mostly they are very hard blows directed at pressure points.

If noone can practice these "deadly pressure point strikes" then there is no way of knowing that they work. Pressure point strikes are NOT illegal in competition, so why aren't more people doing Muay Boran, Mantis, Snake, etc.........They don't work.

When people say an art is "too deadly", it's really just a cop out because the practitioners don't want to admit it doesn't work.

because very few masters outside of thailand are willing to teach them. I believe that two schools opened in Europe and both were shut down after several deadly confrontations nearby.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
because very few masters outside of thailand are willing to teach them. I believe that two schools opened in Europe and both were shut down after several deadly confrontations nearby.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. 😆

yeah right. 🙄

wow! who decided to bring this thread back to life?....oh comic surfer...

I am glad he did. We need to put an end to this "Muay Thai is the ultimate style" mantra in this thread.

meh, i'm a bit biased cuz i've done some different stuff and muay thai is by far the most effective and my fave.

I have boxed and was taught the Thai techniques (although I ain't fluid with roundhouse and axe kicks and stuff) but I have my fast straight kicks with both leading and back legs down...
And the elbows/knees/backfist combos up close= Doom for opponents.

Devastating stuff. It was a real equaliser for someone like myself who is not the weightiest guy in the world...
I'll be grateful for what I have learned/practiced/used 'til the day I die..
I cant recommend an amalgamation of both styles enough...

i like driving opponents crazy, i'm left handed so i just reverse any of the punch combos they teach us and follow it with three shin kicks to the inner thigh and a knee to the kidney. and if the guy's still up, an elbow to the face usually ends things.

the only sucky part is that it leaves you more susceptable to should locks and leg grabs

Well since I have been beat up by a boxer and muy tai I think the tai was more efficient......

LOL Soleran30 😆

Yep...Southpaws have always been tricky for orthadox fighters...
The leading legs often tangle even in 'conventional' boxing and like you say the issues with the punches/kicks/defense do make it interesting...

No one martial art is superior to all others. Just like the most convincing theologians study a mixture of religions, the most effective martial artist must study a mixture of martial arts.

I started boxing when I was 14, then added Muay Thai when I was 16, so I definitely agree that Muay Thai becomes much more effective when you can punch, since a punch is, in general, a faster attack than a kick, and since I'm 6'1", it's got a long reach.

But, since joining the Army and getting a good job within that organization (...), I've come to realize that Krav Maga is probably the best 'art'. I use quotes because it's not an exact form (like say... karate), but that's one of its greatest strengths. It incorporates the elbow/shin/knee strikes of muay thai, as well as the grappling element, with judo-style throws, aikido-style joint locks, and other really debilitating maneuvers that can end fights pretty quickly (I like the lunging elbow to the sternum...).

So if you're looking for pure lethality, I'd go with krav maga. It's really good for me, because when I box, I'm a righty, but in a traditional, 'hands-up' muay thai stance, I'm a southpaw. Since either stance works with krav maga, it's easy to adapt to whatever combat situation I find myself in.

In other words, I vote 'other', lol.

pure lethality-
Look up something called Muay Boran