Ok, after giving this more thought,
and taking a closer observation at the surrounding intricacies,
it appears that Galan and Scoobs are correct concerning the "Hand in the eye"
yes, it has to be a subtle reference of Eternity's hand.
Why,
because Krona is referring to the UniverseS (two)
he wanted to force and ultimately destroy,
and one of those two UniverseS relating to Kismet,
was indeed Eternity.
So, I agree with Galan, who was initially right, 👆
and further cemented by Scoobs, I was wrong imo.
I did have a solid argument, because the "other Hand" I was referring to,
is exactly like the "Hand in the eye" .. and it was also illustrated in JLA/Avengers,
so I wasn't arguing blindly, but I did forget about E and the galaxy in his hand,
but regardless,
the context of what Krona is referring to in that particular incident,
concerns Kismet and Eternity.
*note*
This does not make JLA/Avengers canon to Marvel though imo,
this is a DC issue, and obviously it's canon to DC.
Imo, it really should not be canon to DC either, for other reasons listed below,
and imo, Trinity is in part just an introduction story for Krona,
who's last major role concerning DC, his native reality, was JLA/Avengers.
But that's just my opinion,
if it truly canon to DC, and it appears that way,
then obviously DC decided to overlook the farcical story that was JLA/Avengers,
concerning BOTH DC and Marvel's cosmology. (again, reasons listed below.
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That's really not canon, at-least not to Marvel's cosmology,
and I'm sure not to DC's either,
regardless that two incidents within the story were vaguely referenced in two bios.
It was literally a single sentence in each of the two bios,
which, if one didn't know the details of the two minute incidents within the arc,
one would have absolutely no idea what the two sentences are referring to.
None of the two sentences, mentions anyone's name from DC btw,
some will cry because it's "copyright infringement" ...
my reply is, why would something that both companies accept as "canon"
be considered "copyright infringement" if both co.'s have truly established this as canon?
Obviously this cross-over is only "canon" withIN the cross-over itself.
(which means it's completely meaningless when considering the individual co.'s continuity)
But besides that,
the story takes place withIN a single Multiverse,
as in both companies share the same space,
and both companies,
(which here are the sentient embodiments of Eternity/Kismet)
are part of this single Multiverse.
That right there
throws the entire possibility of this being canon right out the window,
both Marvel and DC are far more than a single Multiverse on thier own,
to suggest that they share a single Multiverse then,
is even more preposterous, to the point of it being laughable actually.
If JLA/Avengers were truly canon,
then that would mean, if we consider the "sharing the same space nonsense"
AM/Spectre, Parallax, Mxy & Michael and whoever else, have re-created all of Marvel,
since they at some point wiped out then remade, or simply made all of DC,
same goes for the Alien Entity, HOM Wanda, Thanos/THOTI and whoever else,
who wiped out and recreated, or simply remade all of Marvel,
by default again, this means they had absolute power over DC likewise.
Which is rubbish.
No one in Marvel has power over anything in DC,
and vice-versa.
There's a host of other contradictions & paradoxes that make story ludicrous.
Originally posted by Galan007
[B]so... when did molecule man get locked up?
In the end of that arc as you know brother G,
Owen is a loner, in a room alone,
who himself states that his broken heart defines him basically:
Originally posted by bbrem123
where does doctor manhattan stand in power?
Sub-Skyfather (Transcendent)
Amazo, Appolyon, The Asgardian Destroyer, Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Cyborg Superman, Darkseid, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Doomsday (H/P), Dr. Fate, Dr. Manhattan, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Queen of Fables, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Solomon Grundy (Peak), Solusandra, Stayne, Strange Visitor, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Talisman, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus
Originally posted by Soljer
[B]Sub-Skyfather (Transcendent)Amazo, Appolyon, The Asgardian Destroyer, Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Cyborg Superman, Darkseid, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Doomsday (H/P), Dr. Fate, Dr. Manhattan, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Queen of Fables, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Solomon Grundy (Peak), Solusandra, Stayne, Strange Visitor, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Talisman, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus [/B]
thanks...he just seemed so strong by how he looks and acts
Originally posted by Mr MasterCool. 👆
If I'm not mistaken,
depression over his lost of Marsha lead him to desire shelter from the world,
why he chose to turn himself in
and get locked up is one of those things that makes ya go hmm...
Because he was already secluding himself during his appearance vs post Beyonder.In the end of that arc as you know brother G,
Owen is a loner, in a room alone,
who himself states that his broken heart defines him basically
Originally posted by bbrem123
where does doctor manhattan stand in power?
Originally posted by Soljerthough if you ask me, that's a little high. when i look back at what manhattan actually did - most [if not all] of it, is something on par with surfer.
[B]Sub-Skyfather (Transcendent)[/B]
but no one asked me. ermmhappy
Originally posted by bbrem123Personally he is one of those characters that are hard to judge.
where does doctor manhattan stand in power?
In his universe his power was implied limitless. In feats though he never did anything to warrant him a higher placement then Mid Herald, and if you consider some of the things the low-heralds have done maybe he even belong in that tier.
question: Parallaxs outfit is green. someone told me when Hal Jordan was Parallax his outfit was green as a means to fool people or something like that. im unsure. but why when Kyle he was still green? why only after taking Hal and Kyle did he manifest a yellow outfit?
i think he looks awesome in a yellow outfit and was curious if any could explain keeping the green on to me, more so when being a part of badass corpse based off your color.
also! wtf happen to Risk?! i mean after he got his 2nd arm torn off did he have any kind of follow up?
and am i the only one who think this guy should get some kinda lantern ring? a armless guy with a yellow/red ring would be cool. plus be interesting to see where hed put it.
