Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganIt's from X-Force/Cable: Messiah War one-shot.
what issue is this from?
Originally posted by SuperMan103Dormammu has appeared since then. Umar hasn't (afaik.)
is Defenders volume 3 canon? and have dormammu or umar made any appearances since then?
And yes, Defenders v3 is canon. It's events were mentioned in the OHOTMU bios of both Dormammu and Umar:
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/9044/umar1.jpg
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1766/dormammu1.jpg
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Wasn't her previous incarnation retconned after WW 600? From the scans I've seen, she looks significantly different and has gotten a downgrade.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
she beats them with PIS tho
Originally posted by SuperMan103
So, Galactus has got owned by Galileo, Newton, and Da Vin Ci 😐When will the jobbing end?
Originally posted by TheTyrantIt was the same event.
Read my mind. Galactus got owned both in the first and third issues of S.H.I.E.L.D. Hopefully, they were both just different re-tells of the same event, not two different Galactus ownages.So? They were just human vessels. This is Galactus we're talking about. The Great Devourer of Worlds.
And they didn't so much as own Galactus as literally create a new Earth for Galactus to consume, saving their own Earth. This is clarified at the end of the issue.
S.H.I.E.L.D. is a fukin trip. I love it.
Originally posted by King Castle
that doesnt make sense that was the 1st crisis in the 80's.i agree the universe restarted but, Pa Kent died again from a heart attack in the 90's.
so how was brought back the second time around?
are you talking around the time of Death Of Superman? Pa did technically die, but he met Clark in the afterlife and they both came back to the land of the living iirc.
Originally posted by King Castle
no he stayed dead.. he just wanted clark to live.and it wouldnt explan martha living alone and clark coming back and reminiscing about his dad on the farm. iirc.
in adventures 500 jonathan spoke with clark and they came back from the afterlife together. jonathan woke up in hospital.
or are you talking about something after that?
i'm too lazy to look it up but, he brought back clark but kent still died...iirc.
then kent died again during a brainiac moment.. facepalm
doesnt matter i just wiki'ed it and it said that Geoff Johns had brough him back in 2003 but with no explanation to the readers just that he was back on the farm alive and kicking. 😒
must be the reality punching excuse. 😒
if we cant logically explain it the reality punch is the cause. 😗
i mean how do you go to superboy and tell him i feel for you i'll share my parents they will raise you..
some one should have said: where the f#$# you bn Pa?! you are suppose to be dead!!!
not here you go superboy my parents will raise you and you can play with your friends(titans) in the weekends.
anyways.. what.......ever....
is superman's origin still the same, as in his race dont do physical contact and he himself is just a genetic test tube baby he grew and was made in the rocket or was that retcon of the original, retcon?
Originally posted by King Castle
i'm too lazy to look it up but, he brought back clark but kent still died...iirc.then kent died again during a brainiac moment.. facepalm
doesnt matter i just wiki'ed it and it said that Geoff Johns had brough him back in 2003 but with no explanation to the readers just that he was back on the farm alive and kicking. 😒
he was alive before that. In OWAW for example. He was alive when Superboy was on the farm too.
and no, Superman was born. That origin was retconned years ago. He's been just a baby in a rocket for at least a decade if not more...
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Wasn't her previous incarnation retconned after WW 600? From the scans I've seen, she looks significantly different and has gotten a downgrade.
There's an alternate-timeline thing going on, but it's yet to hit anything outside of the WW book.
Giganta is running around is Secret Six and Donna Troy is current in JLA, for example.
When that whole timeline thing and how it works is cleared up, then we might see outside effects.
To expand on the Wonder Woman thing further with new info, this is Diana in a preview of the Return of Bruce Wayne #5, and she's not JMS-WW.
So the JMS stuff does seem to be limited to that one book (I don't think DC's quite gotten how the 'revitalize a character' thing works... at least if they're not bringing back a dead silverager).
Originally posted by Q99
To expand on the Wonder Woman thing further with new info, this is Diana in a preview of the Return of Bruce Wayne #5, and she's not JMS-WW.So the JMS stuff does seem to be limited to that one book (I don't think DC's quite gotten how the 'revitalize a character' thing works... at least if they're not bringing back a dead silverager).
Originally posted by Galan007
It's from X-Force/Cable: Messiah War one-shot.Dormammu has appeared since then. Umar hasn't (afaik.)
And yes, Defenders v3 is canon. It's events were mentioned in the OHOTMU bios of both Dormammu and Umar:
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/9044/umar1.jpg
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1766/dormammu1.jpg
So does that mean Umar is older than Dormammu? I always thought it was the other way around.
