Comic Book Questions

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Originally posted by john allerdyce
ok so in marvel the end, did thanos absorb a universe, a multiverse, or the omniverse? ive heard a few people say he absorbed the omniverse, but i don't see how they got that?

What do I mean by 'sphere of reality'? Well in Marvel, different realities/actualities/etc. are contained within literal spheres -- a fact Warlock discovered when he exited the 616 reality and entered the Vortex of Myriad Alls:
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/7076/mu1z.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4039/mu2l.jpg
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/7373/mu3i.jpg

All of those spheres = the entire Marvel continuum.

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And as you can see, even the 616 anchor (Atlez/Atleza) has their own realm/sphere outside the 616 sphere:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5724/mu4a.jpg
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/5893/mu5c.jpg

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Now, when Thanos went on his rampage, he absorbed all that he *evidently* could. Despite this, Warlock (and Death) remained unscathed. How can this be? Because at the time, Warlock was in Atleza's realm (which we've proven is outside the 616 reality, in it's own little sphere):
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4610/mu6l.jpg

Proof he was in Atleza's realm during The End:
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2216/mu7p.jpg

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So IF Thanos' power would have extended beyond his sphere of reality, Warlock/Death would not have been safe... But they were. This suggests that his influence was contained solely to the 616 sphere of reality.

Now the question is posed as to whether you think the 616 sphere = a universe or a multiverse -- but judging by how many times the word "universe" was used during that arc to describe the damage caused by Thanos' absorption spree, I'd lean towards that.

Regardless, it definitely wasn't the omniverse he absorbed -- don't buy into that. It was a multiverse at MOST.

Originally posted by SamZED
Heard something about SHIELD being controlled by HYDRA from the very beginning and find it kinda crazy. Can anyone give any details???

where is this from?

Originally posted by SuperMan103
where is this from?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Action Comics #894

thanks OV.

The Hydra/shield thing sounds familiar. Wasn't that in Nick Fury's Secret Warriors series that started shortly before Secret Invasion?

Which was in turn a sequel to the Secret War mini.

It had Phobos (Ares' son) and Stonewall.

Originally posted by Galan007
[edit] 9,000th post!! ha-jam

Thanos absorbed everything within his particular sphere of reality.

What do I mean by 'sphere of reality'? Well in Marvel, different realities/actualities/etc. are contained within literal spheres -- a fact Warlock discovered when he exited the 616 reality and entered the Vortex of Myriad Alls:
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/7076/mu1z.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4039/mu2l.jpg
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/7373/mu3i.jpg

All of those spheres = the entire Marvel continuum.

---

And as you can see, even the 616 anchor (Atlez/Atleza) has their own realm/sphere outside the 616 sphere:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5724/mu4a.jpg
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/5893/mu5c.jpg

---

Now, when Thanos went on his rampage, he absorbed all that he *evidently* could. Despite this, Warlock (and Death) remained unscathed. How can this be? Because at the time, Warlock was in Atleza's realm (which we've proven is outside the 616 reality, in it's own little sphere):
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4610/mu6l.jpg

Proof he was in Atleza's realm during The End:
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2216/mu7p.jpg

---

So IF Thanos' power would have extended beyond his sphere of reality, Warlock/Death would not have been safe... But they were. This suggests that his influence was contained solely to the 616 sphere of reality.

Now the question is posed as to whether you think the 616 sphere = a universe or a multiverse -- but judging by how many times the word "universe" was used during that arc to describe the damage caused by Thanos' absorption spree, I'd lean towards that.

Regardless, it definitely wasn't the omniverse he absorbed -- don't buy into that. It was a multiverse at MOST.

So Thanos w/THOTI is not Omniversal Hyper Super GOD/Supreme Being?? What a Blasphemy. I forgot That Marvel has all pantheon of "Supreme Beings On Panel" so that wouldnt be problem for someone's Hierarchy😄

Originally posted by Galan007
[edit] 9,000th post!! ha-jam

Thanos absorbed everything within his particular sphere of reality.

What do I mean by 'sphere of reality'? Well in Marvel, different realities/actualities/etc. are contained within literal spheres -- a fact Warlock discovered when he exited the 616 reality and entered the Vortex of Myriad Alls:
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/7076/mu1z.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4039/mu2l.jpg
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/7373/mu3i.jpg

All of those spheres = the entire Marvel continuum.

---

And as you can see, even the 616 anchor (Atlez/Atleza) has their own realm/sphere outside the 616 sphere:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5724/mu4a.jpg
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/5893/mu5c.jpg

---

Now, when Thanos went on his rampage, he absorbed all that he *evidently* could. Despite this, Warlock (and Death) remained unscathed. How can this be? Because at the time, Warlock was in Atleza's realm (which we've proven is outside the 616 reality, in it's own little sphere):
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4610/mu6l.jpg

Proof he was in Atleza's realm during The End:
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2216/mu7p.jpg

---

So IF Thanos' power would have extended beyond his sphere of reality, Warlock/Death would not have been safe... But they were. This suggests that his influence was contained solely to the 616 sphere of reality.

Now the question is posed as to whether you think the 616 sphere = a universe or a multiverse -- but judging by how many times the word "universe" was used during that arc to describe the damage caused by Thanos' absorption spree, I'd lean towards that.

Regardless, it definitely wasn't the omniverse he absorbed -- don't buy into that. It was a multiverse at MOST.

The one part which was confusing about it not being Omniversal is when Thanos said he was bonded to Omni reality.

Thanos wasn't omniversal...

he was to me..whimper

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Originally posted by NotSoBad
So Thanos w/THOTI is not Omniversal Hyper Super GOD/Supreme Being?? What a Blasphemy. I forgot That Marvel has all pantheon of "Supreme Beings On Panel" so that wouldnt be problem for someone's Hierarchy😄

Originally posted by Nihilist
Great attention to detail Galan 👆

The one part which was confusing about it not being Omniversal is when Thanos said he was bonded to Omni reality.

But even if you want to stretch the hell out of that line and assume Thanos WAS bonded to the entire omniverse, the fact still remains that he didn't absorb anything outside of his sphere of reality.

Originally posted by Galan007

Omni simply means "all." Thus Thanos literally said that he was bonded to "all reality" (notice he said "realitY", not "realitieS".) Imo that's a singular statement, not a plural one. /shrug

But even if you want to stretch the hell out of that line and assume Thanos WAS bonded to the entire omniverse, the fact still remains that he didn't absorb anything outside of his sphere of reality.

^ He absorbed whatever his sphere of reality is equivalent to (either a universe of a multiverse.)

i thought death existed outside of reality altogether, her and oblivion which is why they wasnt affected

^ Death was safe from Thanos' absorption for the same reason Warlock/Gamora/Atleza/the rest of Marvel were: ie. they were in planes of existence outside the 616 sphere of reality, when Thanos went on his rampage.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Death was safe from Thanos' absorption for the same reason Warlock/Gamora/Atleza/the rest of Marvel were: ie. they were in planes of existence outside the 616 sphere of reality, when Thanos went on his rampage.

^ I believe Dormammu's realm is still one of the many splinter realms that branch from the mainstream 616 reality -- thus it too would have been absorbed.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ I believe Dormammu's realm is still one of the many splinter realms that branch from the mainstream 616 reality -- thus it too would have been absorbed.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Ah,K.
I just remembered a old Dr Strange comic saying that he was the SS or the whole reality stopping threats like Dormammu entering the (616) universe.