Does anyone know if Fantastic Four Special #1: My Dinner with Doom (this issue) is canon to 616?
Does anyone know if Fantastic Four Special #1: My Dinner with Doom (this issue) is canon to 616?
Originally posted by CogitoThe weight isn't what defeated him, bro. 😉
Turning it into iron is canon, sure. The weight defeating Orion is a super low feat for him.
Originally posted by Endless MikeI don't think confirmation is needed, tbh. Annuals and Specials are in the same category--unless we have an explicit reason to assume otherwise, they're canon.
That's what I was thinking, but I can't find confirmation one way or another.
Question about power levels. Was fat buu that fought ssj3 goku and later Kid Buu, had the same power level like during his first appearances or he gotten slightly weaker w/o kid buu inside of him?
Also, was he weaker when he fought evil buu? Can Majin Vegeta beat him during this time during the split?
Originally posted by vansonbeeFat Buu got weaker from the Evil Buu split but afterwards it was never stated if he stayed weaker or not since he basically refused with Evil Buu and then got torn out, which should have just made him turn back into Evil Buu again, but it didn't.
Question about power levels. Was fat buu that fought ssj3 goku and later Kid Buu, had the same power level like during his first appearances or he gotten slightly weaker w/o kid buu inside of him?Also, was he weaker when he fought evil buu? Can Majin Vegeta beat him during this time during the split?
Buu's transformations were confusing. Kid Buu goes to super Kid Buu to Fat Buu. Then he turns into 2 Buus that split into Evil Buu and Good Buu and then go to Super Buu back to Kid.
There's a chance they just glossed over it though after the tear out. Considering how much better he did than SS2 Vegeta is about the same level he showed in the Majin Vegeta fight. Which wouldn't make sense if most of his power went and stayed with Evil Buu even after the fusion. Plus he got a lot of word of mouth both in Super and at the end of Z which again wouldn't make sense if his power was more than cut in half. Hell Goku chose him over Gohan who was above Mystic level in the tourney (though that doesn't make sense either). Plus he took the biggest beating from Beerus besides Vegeta.
So there's 2 logical ways to look at it. We can say it was never said he got his powers back, or we can look at his showings and say he somehow got his powers back from being part of Buu. srug
Can someone quantify the following please?
In the following scans Tony comments that he poured enough heat energy to fission nitrogen molecules in the air.
http://i.imgur.com/xNZXcJu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YHUrN3R.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vNY5BXj.jpg
What does he mean by it?
How much energy does it require to fission nitrogen molecules?
How hot or intense would said heat be?
Originally posted by "Id"
Can someone quantify the following please?In the following scans Tony comments that he poured enough heat energy to fission nitrogen molecules in the air.
http://i.imgur.com/xNZXcJu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YHUrN3R.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vNY5BXj.jpgWhat does he mean by it?
How much energy does it require to fission nitrogen molecules?
How hot or intense would said heat be?
Well fission is an atomic process, so really that should read "nitrogen atoms" if you want it to make any sense.
I bring this up every now and then, but anyways, here goes.
Wasn't the 616 verse permanently destroyed in Legion Quest and after AoA?
616 was destroyed and supplanted by 295 (AoA) when Legion killed Xavier.
Then later, following 295, Bishop travels back and kills Legion before he has the chance to kill Xavier. Supposedly this fixes everything.
But how does that fix anything? Wouldn't that just create a new universe?...
Originally posted by krisblazeI will try to at least start an answer to some of this...
I bring this up every now and then, but anyways, here goes.Wasn't the 616 verse permanently destroyed in Legion Quest and after AoA?
616 was destroyed and supplanted by 295 (AoA) when Legion killed Xavier.
Then later, following 295, Bishop travels back and kills Legion before he has the chance to kill Xavier. Supposedly this fixes everything.
But how does that fix anything? Wouldn't that just create a new universe?...
In early Marvel stories characters basically did seem to simply travel back in time in their own timeline. Later on, particularly under Byrne, they pushed the idea that when characters traveled into the past they were splitting off a new reality from that point onwards - the past could not be changed. I suppose this got around the messiness of characters wrecking everything with time travel.
Later this theory was retconned somewhat: Reed established that instead of creating a new reality, a time-traveler actually traveled back into an almost identical pre-existing alternate reality. But same result - the past could not be changed.
In Legion Quest I think this all went out the window because the whole point of the arc was to actually replace 616 temporarily. I am pretty sure at the end of LQ it was specifically stated that Legion achieved "true" time travel, ie he was actually changing the past of 616.
From that point I don't know and I largely lost track of X-Men. I can only guess that when Bishop was sent back at the end of AoA that it was supposed to also be "true" time travel again and that he actually restored 616 - at least that was the general story intention at the time. But later on didn't AoA actually continue on in its own reality? I really have no idea about the history of AoA after that.
